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Prong - Scorpio Rising

Asstrology Lessens - 40%

autothrall, May 24th, 2020
Written based on this version: 2003, CD, Locomotive Records

I don't think there's any question that Prong was already flirting with groove and nu metal on their 90s albums like Cleansing or Rude Awakening, and they were possibly even an influence on a few of the bands in that style; but Scorpio Rising was the first unfortunate instance in which they themselves started to adopt the style to the point where it felt intrusive and distracting, like they were trying to bring on some of those more modern influence and in the process dumbing down their own unique aesthetics. This was not as shocking, or as awful as, say, Diabolus in Musica, because Tommy Victor and friends eased us into this evolution It's not quite the disaster that some of the bigger metal bands ran into as they were trying to court an even more mainstream audience, but it IS bad, the worst Prong album in the discography and remains awkward to listen to even today.

The riffs here are mostly big, dumb groove metal riffs, not the first they've written, but they don't really stand out as other than flexing some muscle in a niche that had already gotten annoying and tired even by the early 21st century. They still have some nods to their industrial/thrash era as in "All Knowing Force", but even then those aren't as good as "Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck" and a few come across as just bad Ministry wannabe progressions. The bass playing is still quite pumping and fun, but when you haven't really got any good riffs to play under it also eventually dips into the inevitable mediocrity. The drumming is fine in that groovy hip hop style with some occasional industrial programming embellishments, but by far the biggest offender on the album are the vocals of Tommy Victor. Sure, they still sound like he always has, but he adds in these over the top gorilla grunts to his already gruff style and it ends up sounding too moronic to take seriously. On a track like "Embrace the Depth" he's back to himself and it doesn't sound so bad, he can surge into one of those catchier chorus parts, but there are other times here where I nearly had to shut off the album it was just so goofy sounding. A few of his howls even sound like an angrier, burlier Glen Danzig, so it seems like the other, bigger bands Victor had played with (or would play with) rubbed off here, and the lyrics are largely awful...

I can't completely decimate this album, because about 30-40% of it sounds like the band did in the decade prior, but apart from a few of those splashes of more warm, melodic chords, the bass lines and a few of the chorus vocals, this is just weak. The better songs like "Assurances" and "Out of This Realm" are wedged pretty deeply into the album, but they wouldn't be enough to save it even if they were the first two in the track list. Maybe it was all that time off, Tommy was just trying to rekindle the flames of what Prong was prior, but mix in a few flavors of the week, a process that clearly worked in the previous decade but just falls apart here. At its best, Scorpio Rising is just lazily copying previous material, but at its worst it's unintentionally hilarious. Not the sort of career nadir I'd want to run over with my car like Load or Virtual XI, but this album just seems so unnecessary in retrospect, since they've done a pretty decent job with most of their other output. Even the cover artwork on this one left something to be desired. Is that a skeleton with a beetle head wielding a scythe? What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

-autothrall
http://www.fromthedustreturned.com

Un-Knowing Farce - 39%

psychoticnicholai, June 26th, 2018
Written based on this version: 2003, CD, Locomotive Records

I guess you could assume in 2003 that Prong had fallen out of practice from quite a few factors. Tommy Victor created no new music for 7 years prior to this album and Prong as a band was on total hiatus for that time. During that time from 97-02, nu metal had become a sales behemoth and was at the peak of its influence. The band had also lost a lot of prominence and support from labels who could give them the tools they need to crank out another album. Instead of Epic Records like in the 90s, or SPV from later on, Prong had to sign on to Locomotive, which is a much more obscure label from Spain which probably had fewer resources and thus helped create a less-than-enthusiastic return for Prong on Scorpio Rising. This album commands a lot of disrespect from Prong fans, and even those strange people who like this album tend to think this is still one of Prong's weakest efforts. Scorpio Rising was a muddy, disinterested, and unfocused slog of an album that showed that Prong desperately needed to whip themselves back into shape.

Musically, what you end up with is very substandard. One of the most prominent features of Scorpio Rising is its very muddled, down-tuned guitar tone that can deliver some moments of heaviness but isn’t utilized well throughout most of this album. Most of the time it’s busy delivering dull, and relatively simple nu metal jump grooves that are never used to create some dynamic, and instead just feel like a lazy way of being heavy without having to write the aggression into the music. That being said, the songwriting also plays a lot into how lacking this album feels with how much time is wasted on songs that never vary their upsettingly middling and tepid levels of intensity, and with riffs that pack little punch and involve a lot of repeating to the point where listening to this becomes numbing. Though most of Scorpio Rising is piss-lukewarm and barely passable, there are some songs that fall through the floor quality-wise and just sound like slathered messes. “All Knowing Force” is a prime example of this with Tommy’s vocals and the guitar riffs clashing so hard with each other on terms of rhythm that it sounds like the song is barely holding together. It also doesn’t help that there’s perv-whispered vocals from Tommy saying “Baby, the first fuck” 4 times in succession before inarticulately bellowing his lyrics to us in a messy mix of vocal tones. He does the same thing on “Hidden Agenda” where his vocals have no rhythm to them and it just feels like he’s yelling in a bunch of disconnected vocal tones, none of which sound pleasant while the guitars just consist of more stunted nu metal grooves. You know an album isn’t in good shape at all if it’s most notable songs are notable for being bad.

The rest seem to suffer from simply being a mix of boring and slightly awkward. Many of the songs aren’t particularly aggressive and those that mostly seem to rely on dull simple grooves to carry the guitar rhythm despite their lack of crunch. There is also the fact that Tommy Victor delivers a few quasi-hip-hop vocals that sit in an awkward place between singing and rapping. A lot of this album just lays down a guitar rhythm and goes with it whether said rhythm is exciting or not (most often not) with the song having only the most basic and bland of dynamics. Nu metal’s lazier elements were seeping into this album with lazy down-tuned simpleton guitar grooves, hip-hoppish vocal deliveries, and simple songs in tones that hardly ever vary making their mark on Scorpio Rising and that was bad form for 2003 when this dumbed-down genre was already well on the wane. It’s still mostly a groove metal album, but it simplifies itself to the point where going nu metal seems inches away for Prong. There’s also the passionless feeling of much of the album, especially with flat, soft songs like “Reactive Mind” and “Avoid Promises” that just bore the hell out of you. Even the token thrasher “Regal” feels underwhelming from how soggy the guitars and production are. It’s not terrible, or even bad, but it just feels disappointing. Prong’s aggression isn’t all here and when it does show up, it feels like it’s been stunted.

Come to think of it, Scorpio Rising is a stunted Prong album. The grooves are here, but they pack far less punch and far less aggression or attitude than before, the songs often do only enough to get by, Tommy Victor sounds disinterested on some songs, and despite how much louder everything is, the anger doesn’t cut deep here. This is blunted, muddy, and without energy. The secondary nu metal-isms are just the icing on the disappointment cake. Prong would go towards sounding like themselves once again in the future, but this dull, featureless dross does show what can happen to a band that stays out of the game for too long. This was just forgettable, every one of Prong’s other albums is better than this. Just leave this one alone.

Seven Years For This? - 12%

GuntherTheUndying, April 15th, 2007

Back in 1876, General George Armstrong Custer led a group of American military troops to control a rebellion of Native Americans when they left their reservations. The Battle of the Little Horn (the conflict between the two) lasted a few days before the Native Americans killed Custer and his army. After Custer kicked the bucket, a few Indians apparently approached his body and rammed steel rods into his ear. This was done for one of two reasons:

1. They did it to symbolize his poor listening to Native American threats, which basically means they told him to not fuck around and he did anyway.
-or-
2. Even though the Native Americans hated Custer, they spared him the agony of hearing Prong's "Scorpio Rising" in the afterlife because it sucked terribly.

Yes, that may sound a bit wacky, but it makes sense. You see, I've been a Prong fan since I became a true metalhead and I owe the band a lot for expanding my musical perimeters. I loved hearing those crushing tunes like "Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck" and "Rude Awakening" that showed off so many elements of Prong's music. Prong was at the top of their game with 1996's "Rude Awakening," but founding member Tommy Victor decided to leave and play in Danzig for almost a decade before returning to the band he once founded. Seven years passed before Prong was back with "Scorpio Rising," but it wasn't what anyone expected. Instead of a glorious comeback that seemed likely, Prong somehow managed to destroy both their fanbase and image in under fifty minutes with "Scorpio Rising."

Thrash elements and industrial noises - some of the key parts of Prong's music - have been removed and the band now spins on a dull style of mainstream feces. Easy, shallow, and moronic are all accurate words to describe the poor riffs that plague this record. The typical routine of sup-par groove riff after sup-par groove riff is the only formula Victor follows; not only that, but there are hardly any solos. Listening to the guitar playing is like having explosive diarrhea: you want it to stop, but it won't. The decision to abandon industrial effects was also a huge mistake because there isn't any hand to keep this album from falling. Samples allow music to remain fresh when interest is running low, but this idea was forgotten and it leaves this CD out to dry.

Fourteen tunes fight for survival, but only one succeeds. "Regal" is the sole song worth hearing due to the old-school thrash elements, blastbeats(!), and insane solos; everything else is generic and simple junk that belongs in a dumpster. Why did Prong take the time to write a decent track like "Regal" without perfecting the rest of the album? I guess some questions just can't be answered.

It's clear Victor and crew had the potential to make a decent comeback, but the poor ideas plus half-assed musicianship poisons "Scorpio Rising" beyond words. Beside being a cure for insomnia, "Scorpio Rising" is a disgrace to Prong's decent discography and gets nothing but the axe.

Stings like a scorpion - 90%

markendust, December 19th, 2006

Now, this is not Prong's best but it is far from being horrible. It is a great comeback after the awkward Rude Awakening. It sounds like a more aggressive version of Cleansing which is my favorite work from them. There is far less random industrial samples and more heavy guitar grooves. Whoever thinks this sounds like Disturbed and said it had no leads or guitar solos obviously was listening to the wrong album or simply was too overwhelmed that Prong are still groovy to hear them. The thrash scene was built by the bands, not the fans of the thrash bands and even if the bands are playing a groovier version of thrash, it is still the bands who created the original scene.

The best songs will be reviewed here. The opener, "Detached", has a good moody riff and unique verses, mainly due to Tommy's vocal patterns. "All Knowing Force" is droning to the core and the following song, "Embrace the Depth", toys with some melody that works and there are even some death growls. "Reactive Mind" induces one to head bang to its massive riffage and "Regan" starts as a chugging groove riff but morphs into a killer Sodom-like thrash (!) break that fills the song's core and you also get a wicked solo from the Tommy man himself. "Inner Truth" has My Dying Bride-worthy doom grooves and a great melodic solo. "Avoid Promises" has great leads in the choruses and "Assurances" has super heavy and chunky grooves but they are also atmospheric at the same time. "Letter to a "Friend"" is the perfect 50/50 mix of melody and heavy out of any song on this album. The melody is very spacious and Mike Longsworth gets to do some bass fills along side some keyboards. The closer track, "Hidden Agenda", has a mix of groovy and thrashy riffs and leads going all over the place, a spine busting industrial interlude, and Tommy shouting like a mad man.

Even if this album didn't really get much attention, Prong came back hard and by the sound of this album, they are angry at the mallcore bands who ripped them off.
This album should be listened to more carefully and without pre-conceived notions to be truly appreciated though fans of the Cleansing era will be more likely to enjoy it. But that thrashy passage in "Regan" should shock those into disbelief if you thought Prong would never thrash again.

Bland... - 55%

Snxke, October 16th, 2004

Prong go the way of Therapy? and release an album of middling hard rock with all-style-no-substance songwriting that manages to attempt to sell records (poorly) while pissing over a long and interesting legacy. This new release sadly, does nothing to add to this history. From afar it may be an excellently produced effort and from afar it may seem musically enjoyable. Even so, it's enjoyable in that same way trashy records by bands like Disturbed and Godsmack are. Tommy Victor has lost his way to the party...this is a shadow of the mighty Prong. Even Tommy's voice seems weakened by the mess. A good screamer he is, a singer - he is not.

Opener "Detached" is catchy in a Limp Bizkit sort of way (it has a borrowed riff I can't place and a "Rollin' Rollin' Rollin'" style chorus) and this is as hooky as it gets. Other songs attempt the same feat and occassionally Victor will come up with a good riff or vocal moment that will have you into it just to drop into the same Godsmack/Disturbed wannabe hard-rock that they should have avoided. Victor was once an amazing songwriter, it's rather dissapointing to see him chasing (and failing to catch) the almighty dollar. It has some good moments...but overall the product just falls flat on it's face in comparison to trend setting works like "Force Fed" and "Rude Awakening".

Maybe touring with Danzig will get him the recognition and attention he so desires and this awkward record will be left to the bird. When I hear a legendary underground band copping Disturbed it makes me shake my head and simply wonder "why?".

Skip it.

Awful... just awful... - 10%

Skullhammer, August 11th, 2004

Hmm... Sometimes I think maybe it would've been better if Prong hadn't come back. This album is just awful. Prong has completely abandoned their thrash roots. They also abandoned their weird industrial sound. Instead, I guess Tommy Victor tried to get a more mainstream sound which he accomplished. Prong has sold out yet, if anything, their fan base has decreased. The only thing that separates this album from a nu-metal album is that Tommy Victor isn't rapping... but who knows what will happen for the next album?

I remember about 2 years ago on the Prong website they had a little demo of a song called Initiation. It sounded nice and promising so I had high hopes for this album. All the songs here sound completely the same. Many of them are barely 3 minutes long. Forget about solo's man. There are none. I guess playing guitar for Danzing for the past few years has decreased Tommy Victor's creativity eh? Oddly enough, like the past Prong albums the production is fantastic and the bass is nicely audible but the vocals are just horrible. They're so loud. Tommy has a nice voice but here it sounds like he's constipated and the vocals are louder than anything else so prepare for an annoying album.

The band welcomes another guitarist aboard named Monte Pittman yet the guitar work here is simply horrible. The riffs are all pretty much the same. Even a dude who's just been playing guitar for a month could play better than this. Its all power chords... over and over again. And since there are no interludes, leads, solos its just power chords for 48 minutes. I read somewhere in an interview saying that Regal had death metal influence. Haha. If you think that song has death metal influence then chances are the most extreme band you've been listening to is Slipknot.

Among all this bullshit there lie 2 decent songs: Embrace The Depth and Letter To A Friend. Embrace The Depth is a slightly advanced form of the earlier Initiation. Letter To A Friend takes a break from all the non stop power chords and is a slow song with no guitars during the verses. The chorus sounds pretty cool with a few power chords being palm muted. Other than these 2 songs everything else sounds exactly the same. Stay away from this album. Even if you are a huge Prong fan (like me) you still will hate this album unless you actually like mainstream rock music or nu-metal...