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Savatage - Fight for the Rock

No Fight In This ‘Corporate’ Rock - 33%

Luvers, July 16th, 2023
Written based on this version: 2002, CD, Steamhammer (Reissue)

By 1986 the eclectic American metal outfit Savatage had released two albums that could not be more different from each other. The debut Sirens was a blinding, scene-altering masterwork of dramatic yet grungy and dirty intensity, which had its own unique impact on those from the same city of Tampa that would forge the original death metal movement a few years later. Meanwhile the follow-up Power Of the Night was a slab of mostly generic metal that barely showed the bands identity. That identity being their signature progressive songwriting and the follow-up stripped that away in lieu of hit-single(see: simplistic) songwriting. This is not inherently a problem since Jon Oliva was both capable of, and under contract with Atlantic for, composing songs for other artists to use. Songs that were deliberately unlike what Savatage thought was acceptable to be included on their artistic endeavors.

The few songs from Power Of the Night to make it past its own tour were those that most resembled, yet evolved from, their debut. This created a very divided release, an outright description of inconsistent songwriting. Savatage was simply too varied to be forced to write generic pop songs but despite this being a red flag more glaring than the sun, all of the Chainsaw Charlie’s proved bulls, for they rushed towards the previous album's failure with a sickening fervor. Sheer fucking hubris, I suppose.

The result? Savatage’s lone venture into wimpy radio rock and yes, it is even worse than said description reads. It is the lone shitfest among legendary siblings, the undeniable distinction of the families worst. if there ever needed an album depiction of a red-headed step child.... For most traces of the nine track debut (or its masterful six track EP extension) have all been erased here, replaced by ten tracks of generic pathetic apathy. Want to know how transparently shallow this album is? Of the 10 tracks, half of them are covers. NOTHING reeks of chart success lust than multiple cover songs. Literally five of these tracks are technically covers.

The track Crying For Love is a reworking of their own demo entitled Fighting For Your Love, the same goes for Lady In Disguise - more on that below - but the albums biggest crime is when they cover their own previously released song. Can you see the corporate desperation here? Out On the Streets is from Sirens and that version was raw and passionate, a surprisingly light end to a brutal album. Its contrasting nature proving my above point regarding just how eclectic the band was. It featured epic guitar work whereas this corporatage version replaces most of it with a generic and terrible sounding synth. I do not care what instrument you are playing, you do not remove Criss Oliva’s playing, especially his transcendent lead work, from any recording. No dismissing of any band members' input but Savatage lived entirely through Criss’ songwriting genius.

The only thing they change about the song is they removed the final verse, proving this was just an attempt to be the next Journey/Def Leppard hit-single or ride that big hair glam metal scene. Got to get right to the chorus, yeah? You know, the weakest moment of the song, hereby proving this was never meant to be a hit single, despite its more gentle nature. This song may have sounded out of place amidst the brutal devastation of the debut's first eight tracks but it showed their eclecticism yet thematically fit the grungy street level barbarism all the same. On Sirens it was raw, poignant and emotionally gripping; here it is a desperate, soulless, cry for chart success. A cry that fell on deaf ears.

I did still give this a 33% so something must have been good about this album, right? Well just two songs. The first is Hyde simply because it has the most authentic Savatage identity. Its dark atmosphere is at odds with the rest of the album but it also has a very cheesy intro. Even without that intro however, the song is still generic overall and fails to impress. The chorus is also laughably weak. I only called this good by comparison to the fecal matter the rest of this album is.

So I mentioned three of the five covers but the other two are actual covers from other bands work. Day After Day by Badfinger is not butchered here, in fact it is competently performed, but was always such a lifeless song that it zaps Savatage of their energy, like a virus. This renders it a putrid performance. The other cover song is the only other that truly works on the album and that is Wishing Well by the 1960's legends Free.

Now lets be clear, Jon Oliva is no Paul Rodgers (haha) but he also did not have to be since Savatage made this song their own. It was actually the first song from the album heard when played on Tampa radio a few weeks prior to the album dropping. The band does not change much to the original composition here either but the level of aggression in their approach gives the original (and more importantly this awful album) a swift kick squarely in its derrière. Criss’ interpretation and signature shredding style here is a highlight of the entire album, but this song works mostly because it is the only - I repeat ONLY - song on the album where Jon’s voice works.

It pains me to say it but this is the unequivocal worst performance of Jon's entire career. The music behind him might be generic, corporate drivel, but it was still adequately performed corporate drivel. Jon is entirely out of his element, his hallmark screams really stand out here as incredibly forced and is, frankly, quite unenviable. Just hear the ones on the horrific title track to hear this atrocious reality. Another example would be album closer Red Light Paradise, the opening riff is actually pretty damn good and sounds heavy but whereas on Sirens this would have been just the first of like ten other riffs in one song, here it is extended because the common hit single cannot have too much going on, right? Jon sounds like like he is being castrated because this is not within his range, moreover this sleazy detour to the strip club district should be done by the seedy Motley Crue, not the masterful Savatage.

While Jon's vocals bring most of the songs down, there is one example of him performing adequately but is dragged down instead by inept music and that is track seven, the previously mentioned Lady In Disguise. The 1994 re-issue of Sirens includes a demo version that dates back to before the debut, showing how long they had this in their arsenal. The song had always been conceived as a ballad but in demo it was an ethereal ballad from the start, Criss' elegant acoustics contrasted with a crushing wall of heaviness when in refrain and Jon's silky smooth crooning makes for a very beautiful composition of clashing styles. This corporatage version has wholly dissimilar arrangements, a wretchedly dewy-eyed riff that insults the originals acoustics and an added bridge section that just reeks of glam desperation. Even Criss' solo is nothing special, while the original demo contains his intuitive fluid shredding. This reworking demonstrates everything wrong with this back alley abortion of an album.

I have criticized this horrible excuse of a vinyl pressing enough I think. Fans and the band alike have thoroughly despised this release and ignore it often. If there is one positive here I can point to is the fact that it failed, for it proved to all that Savatage were simply too creative to be pigeonholed into elementary level(see: Pop) songwriting, so executives should simply not interfere. If Savatage was going to succeed it would have to be their way, on their own terms. The result of this decision was the band teamed with a producer who ignited their creativity but also justified his mingling with their product by being a musician himself. Instead of trying to make Savatage the next Journey or Foreigner, as soon as Paul O'Neill joined the 'Tage family, he helped steer them as pioneers in the developmental history of bombastic epic-styled symphonic metal. He did this by reinvigorating not just a band that could still do their thing, he brought out of Jon Oliva the hidden impetus that is the almighty Mountain King.

Go ahead and skip this record.

Highlights: NOTHING!
Lowlights: Wishing Well & Hyde
Embarrassment: EVERYTHING ELSE!

Fight for a meager ration of cock rock - 50%

autothrall, September 10th, 2012

Perhaps the greatest crime committed by the third Savatage full-length is that it stacks up so poorly against all its immediate neighbors, or the band's entire body of work in the 80s. But it's quite a lengthy rap sheet. On the surface, Fight of the Rock continues to take the Olivas and company further into the direction of mainstream accessibility, and this results in both a more harmonic, sterile and 'safe' sound that renders much of its content forgettable. As an EP with 3-4 of its better songs, this is a functional hybrid of heavy metal and hard rock, but there are periods through the track list where there is simply too much inactivity. The banal 'flow' of the record does it no service, and at least 50% of this music is complete scrap.

I'm primarily talking about how they launch us off with the decent title track, loaded with appreciable licks that once again place Criss Oliva's performance front and center. The verse riffs are just as catchy as "Power of the Night", the lead is decent and Jon gets off a few shrill screams in there, plus as cheesy as the chorus might seem, it works. But then, for whatever reason they change up the pacing and seem to become the Beatles ("Out on the Streets") gone horny for 80s power ballads ("Crying for Love", "Day After Day"). Savatage were not particularly awful at this sort of mainstream radio crap, no more so than most of the acts that were making a fortune on the airwaves (fuck off nowadays Bryan Adams!), but let's face it: this was not their calling, even if tracks like "Lady in Disguise" showed a fraction of ambition with their added horns and other instrumentation. Apart from "The Edge of Midnight" with its campy, haunted house intro, or the semi catchy "She's Only Rock'Roll", or "Hyde", which seemed like it would have been a better B-side for Hall of thee Mountain King, there's pitifully little of interest here.

Even the production seems throwaway, a bit murkier and less crisp than on the debut. There's a good deal of atmosphere created through Jon's more cutting vocals, which have plenty of reverb on them to slice straight into the night, but the overall vibe of the album is rarely one of the dark, sweaty streets on the prior album. As for Criss, I'd have to say he has a lower ratio of quality riffs here than any other album (including Streets and Edge of Thorns, two others I'm not fond of). The leads rarely matter outside of the better songs (which I've already named), and even in something like "Hyde" the patterns are a bit lackluster. The lyrics are even more effete than the album before it. 'Get rock dedication?' 'You know you better fight for the rock!' Gah, NO, Savatage. I will not! In fact, this whole album seems like it was compromised of cutting room floor clips that just weren't good enough to include with Power of the Night, especially the wimpier numbers that must have been omitted for feeling 'too different, too soon' from Sirens and The Dungeons are Calling. As if the band and Atlantic wanted to 'ease us' into this family friendly Savatage we could take on a picnic. I'd rather just leave it for the ants to carry off.

Thankfully, whatever fluke juice went into this creation ran dry in the band's veins for their ensuing magnum opus, but I'll be honest with you: I have a hard time even remembering this exists on most days. I can remember a friend and I doing our normal weekend stroll to Strawberry's Records & Tapes, seeing this on the shelf and being surprised it even existed, because no one actually gave a shit. It's almost supernatural in its mediocrity, the most average record ever made, and was a sharp letdown even after Power of the Night, an album that itself had a divisive reaction. I wouldn't dub it 'terrible', per se, because Savatage was just the sort of group which was competent enough to try anything, but it doesn't deserve to bear the same logo on it as Hall of the Mountain King or Gutter Ballet. Not recommended to those newly exploring the band, and if you're really all that curious, just YouTube the title track, maybe "The Edge of Midnight" and call it a day.

-autothrall
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Before Streets...there was this! - 54%

natrix, February 29th, 2012

Hmm...it's really hard for me to say that this album sucks. But when my finger keeps jumping for the "advance track" button, I find it hard to justify buying it. Or even giving it a score of 50. But the fact is, there are some really, really good moments here.

So, apparently some parts of this were supposed to be a Jon Oliva solo album, and other parts (those rotten cover songs!) were pure label suggestion. That would explain the nearly half and half split of awesome songs to fecal matter.

So, the two cover songs are terrible. I don't care for either, and they don't fit Savatage at all. Especially "Day After Day," which is downright embarassing! "Lady In Disguise," "She's Only Rock and Roll," and "Out in the Streets" don't really do it. They're just rather weak, even if some of their elements come from early Savatage songs. And in a way, they are a harbinger of the stuff that Savatage would begin propagating with Streets; melodramatic, quasi-grandiose and a bit pretentious.

The title track kicks things off right. This sounds like Savatage, but more glam metal with those absolutely ridiculous bass drums. You can almost imagine the band playing in s strip club! Especially with those jerky riffs that Criss often throws out. But I digress. The title track is killer, albeit not as driving as "Power of the Night," for example. It is epic and mighty. Criss' guitars always sound like an orchestra of guitars; absolutely massive and ominous. Whereas Power of the Night was a more speedy album, this one is heavy and obstinate, with a slower pace.

"Crying for Love" is a damn good power ballad. This is the darkness that Savatage is so good at! Hell yeah! "Hyde" and "Edge of Midnight" are both equally as dark. Heavy, ominous riffing, and a murky production really make them sound gritty. Add Jon's characteristic maniacal vocal deliver and you've got winning material. "Red Light Paradise" is an awesome way to close the album out, once again bringing us back to the strip club with appropriate lyrics. That opening riff is just wicked! Ace material, for sure.

Sadly, this does have quite a few of the elements of glam, namely those loud bass drums, but it's done in a characteristically Savatage way. And on the songs that are good, they make Motley Crue sound like Justin Bieber. Let's not forget those awful covers and the really lackluster songs. My verdict is that this should be purchased only used, or at 50% of its market value, because the good songs are totally essential.

Well...This Isn't Very Good - 37%

DawnoftheShred, May 20th, 2009

Having been introduced to the Streets album early in my relationship with Savatage, I was well aware that they were capable of disappointing me. But I wasn’t completely prepared for them to do it during their early albums. Following immediately on the heels of the solid Power of the Night, Fight for the Rock is a whiffle-ball record: full of watered down glam metal and very little of the nuances that make Savatage a potent heavy metal band.

Things kick off misleadingly well with the title track, a reasonably well-performed Savatage track. The main riffs have bite to them, Jon Oliva’s vocal line is catchy (though the lyrics are terribly underthought), there’s a neat little synth thing in the bridge, and Criss’ solo is consistent to what he’s known to do. It doesn’t raise the bar, but it’s a good song. This is usually where Savatage thrives, but things start going downhill almost immediately. The next song is “Out on the Streets” and….wait, haven’t I heard this before? Why, this track was on their first album. Apparently the Atlantic reps felt this song had hit potential so they asked the band to re-record it for Fight for the Rock. The result: the touching sleeper hit from Sirens becomes an overproduced, passionless hair ballad. ‘Tis a shame…and one of many places where the production team fucked Savatage over in their quest to make a commercial rock band out of them.

The biggest mistake from this commercial focus is the decision to include cover songs on the album. “Day After Day” is basically rock bottom. Not because it crappily reproduced, but because the original is so vapid that Savatage’s rendition faithfully sucks. “Wishing Well” is the other one and no, it’s not the Sabbath tune. It’s not particularly bad, but when rounded up with the rest of this album’s underachieving tracklist, it’s just another harmless rocker.

The remainder of the album represents some of the most mediocre material in Savatage’s entire career. Predictable, second-grade 80’s metal songs that make Queensryche look like Watchtower: these are the norm, with the vocals and keyboards fighting for the listener’s attention (see “Lady in Disguise,” is this a lost Foreigner track?). Hey Oliva brothers, why don’t you let Steve Wacholz and Johnny Lee Middleton write something for a change? They couldn’t have written anything plainer than “Crying for Love,” could they? Really it’s almost pure rubbish, with only “The Edge of Midnight” daring to imitate the sinister atmosphere that’s far less rare on their other early releases (is this a lost Dio track?).

Other complaints include the sheer overabundance of gimmicky synthesizer hooks (“Crying for Love”) and a lack of definition in any of the guitars. Likely another result of label pressure, Savatage opt for a slick, non-intrusive production. Their earlier albums were raw and menacing: the sound on Fight for the Rock is more like something Dokken or Winger would be right at home with.

The only silver lining to this album is that the band’s reputation was so badly wounded that they chose to abandon all purely commercial leanings and return to the rawer heavy metal sound they were founded upon. The result? Hall of the Mountain King, one of their best albums. As for this heap, it’s a shining example of why producers should stay the hell out of a metal band’s way, or at least accommodate their sound rather than trying to mold them into something they simply can never be.

Great Hair Metal Release - 93%

Stein23, May 11th, 2009

Back in the glory days of the 80’s, when Heavy Metal was the hottest thing around, Savatage was one of many American based Heavy Metal bands that produced highly acquainted albums like: Sirens, Power Of The Night and Hall Of The Mountain King. In 1986 the Tampa group released one of their most peculiar releases, yet a classic release, Fight For The Rock.

The reason this release is obscure is because since the band went under the name Savatage in 1983 till the release of Fight For The Rock the band produced two Heavy Metal studio albums that gave them the status of a Heavy act. Fight For The Rock brought some change in their music by infusing more Hard Rock and early Glamish influences, lyrics included. Many true fans of the band didn’t like this release because it’s some sort of a “slipping off the path”. Maybe because of the negative criticism the band releases, a year later, one of its heaviest releases, Hall Of The Mountain King. Yet, when thinking about it, this temporal change that surrounded the album can also be considered as a positive thing for other fans who do like Hard Rock or even Heavy Metal and of course new founders of the genre back in the day.

The one thing the true fans are right about is the production in this release. The first two albums and the EP, The Dungeons Are Calling, were produced with much higher quality than this one, but still the production here is not bad at all, it’s even quite good. There is a small issue of the mastering; Criss’s guitar has a low volume but still, almost like all of Savatage’s albums in the 80’s, he has his signature sound of a gloomy and dark guitar sound. In addition there are the drums that sound a bit mechanic in some songs, even for the 80’s.

The material in this album is presented as eight originals, two covers and one reissued song. The originals are largely pretty good with themes that are most recognized in Hard Rock and Glam Metal like love and relationships. But there are a couple of songs that convey the power of Rock N’ Roll like the self titled, “Fight For The Rock” and “She Is Only Rock N’ Roll” and there the songs concerning horror like “Edge Of Midnight” and “Hyde”. The two covers presented are originally from the bands Badfinger (“Day After Day”), an American classic Rock act from the 70’s and from the Hard Rock / Rock act Free (Wishing Well). The reissue is the song “Out In The Street” which was first introduced back in 1983 among the track list of the band’s debut, Sirens. The song’s old version is much longer and for Fight For The Rock it was recorded a bit differently.

The main stars on this album and probably in the band in Savatage’s greatest era were the two brothers, Criss and Jon Oliva. Jon, the vocalist and keyboards, is one of the greatest singers in Heavy Metal and one of the evil sounding ones. He can rise to high notes and use his morbid demonic voice. On this album he is a bit calm, in most songs, for some reason but he still delivers. As in charge of the keys he practices with high skill, producing a good couple of tunes with a pipe organ effect, to make the songs more mysterious and scary. Criss, the late guitarist (R.I.P, killed in 1993 in a car accident) , was one of the greatest guitarists in the 80’s in Metal and Hard Rock. His versatile and high ability contributed to the creation of magnificent albums. Fight For The Rock is another step in his wonderful career that was unfortunately cut short.

Fight For The Rock contains some great songs such that choosing the best of them is truly a hard task. Some focus needs to be given to some of them to summarize the effort. The opener, “Fight For The Rock”, is another true anthem of Rock and Metal – “…you’d better, fight for the rock n’ roll”. This track holds amazing riffs and solos and a mega chorus. “Cry For Your Love” is a Glam / Hard Rocker suitable for the era. “The Edge Of Midnight” and “Hyde” as the horror thrillers are very dark and good songs with organ pipe keys and heavy riffs. “Hyde” is about the 19th century monstrous fiend scientist. “She Is Only Rock N’ Roll” is another Rock and Glam anthem that joins the sexiness of “Red Light In Paradise”.

This Savatage effort should have been more credited. The band after all was still Heavy Metal and they have their latest releases to prove that. Fight For The Rock was and always will be a Metal anthem so “stand up, raise your fist cause you believe, we will never fade away, Rock is here to stay, let your torches light the sky!!”

The Edge of Midnight - 78%

Demon_of_the_Fall, July 6th, 2003

Fight for the Rock (1986) is the album after the "Power of the Night" album which had amazing production for it time due to Max Norman. This is quite a step down in production as the snare sounds very tinny, although its not high enough in the mix to be anoying. Alright now production aside, this album is very tasty musically and should not let down any Sava fanatic such as myself.

As previously mentioned there are quite a few ballads on here, and thats not to say that is a bad thing in the least bit. Yes people do point out that this is a more commercial album for them...but it doesn't sound commercial and didn't sell nearly as many albums as their new stuff does. I prefer their newer works more but thats not to say this isn't good...on that contrary. As most of you know Criss Oliva is a fucking guitar god and he always shines with his creative riffs and solos. I must say that this is definatly a different step from Savatage with Fight for the Rock although it's not a bad one either. Theres alot of synths that actually add alot to the overall backdrop of the album. Apparently this album was a rushed job although it turned out great.

Fight For the Rock has a very nice opening riff and its a heavy mammoth that will leave you begging for more. Out on the Steets is a remake from their first album "Sirens" and they do a very good job on it. Very nice mellow track indeed. Crying for your love starts out with a synth and a guitar then gets a slow doomy pace with some cool vocals. I get the chorus stuck in my head for a very long time after hearing this one. Very Catchy! Criss Olivas guitar work on this song is fucking killer!. Next up is Day after Day (a nice slow ballad) with great vocal melodies courtesy of Jon Oliva. Another ear grabber, although quite cheesy (who said cheese isn't great?) i love this song. The Edge of Midnight (what a cool name) starts again with some eerie synths very mid-evalish WHICH FUCKING RULES! This is probably my fave on the album. There is alot of groove in this song that gets my foot tappin the floor constantly. Did i mention this is a highly underated album by the great Savatage? Well it is, no one knows about this. Next up is Hyde thats has some eerie twisted words said, overall this a scary fucking song. The lyrics portraying Jackel and Hyde's life, the songs music and vocals fit the story perfectally. Lady in Disguise is another excellent mid-paced song with a nice little chorus. This album is filled with synths but it actually makes Fight for the Rock more interesting because its something Savatage never did before. She's Only Rock is well.....the name points out exactally what this song is, rock n fuckin roll. Very good song that kind of reminds me of Dio. Wishing Well opens with a fucking cool riff, this is a good song although i wouldn't say its the best on the album. Fuck Criss came up with amazing riffs as Red Light Paradise closes the album we realize what a genious he really was. This is a suitable closer to a awesome album. Never a dull moment with Fight for the Rock and i suggest you buckle the fuck up because your in for a ride of your life. Get in the chair and be prepared to be shocked. I hope you all enjoy this album as much as I do. Stay Metal.

Best Tracks: Fight for the Rock, Out on the Streets, Crying for Love, The Edge of Midnight, Hyde, Lady in Disguise, She's Only Rock N' Roll