Reaching 500 points in an important step for MA users as they can edit band's pages. Why not offer new actions for users like metal freaks and/or metal demons? I thought, for instance, to be able to rename and/or delete releases. I know this can be done with the report function but it would also reduce the reports of lesser importance concerning the rename/delete of releases. It would be cool to have a second step in obtaining privileges (but of course remaining far enough from the moderator's actions). And as users with several thousands points are reliable I think that's not a problem. I know something like that has already been suggested for reports of the queue list. I already expect negative responses/thoughts but I'll post this anyway...

I've suggested that twice before.

Another idea I suggested back then was making the report queue accessible to Metal Freaks, so mods can mostly concentrate on band and review submissions.

No, to allow anybody besides moderators to delete anything of real importance is a very bad idea. Even now, the rockdetector morons argument, that we are untrustful, because simple users can edit too much.

Ok, thanks.

Yes, I agree about leaving deletions to moderations. Being able to rename releases however can't really hurt, can it?

That could be discussed, along with the reports, but still there are some risk of albums being renamed to "Fuck You All" by users hurt in their pride.

...and the next day all their hard-earned points are gone, down to zero. I don't see a problem.

Fucked up album titles would be easier to spot than renamed song titles though. I'm more reluctant to allowing metal freaks to handle reports. As much as there are freaks I trust to be able to tell what report is fake and what is not, not to delete things just because it offends them or to systematically keep NSBM bands out of date; there are more than hundred people who would suddenly get more rights - without any real preceding check for reliability, genre description similarities and/or links with enemy organisations. And the report queue is not so long that it requires the attention of 300 eyes.

No

you already have enough privileges..

Anyway, wrong names in album titles are only a little % of the reports we get

Most reports are about changing genres, line-ups, logos/photos, wrong tracklistings for albums, typos in track names, etc...

+ report queue is mostly my job now and I like it much so no access to Metal Freaks

I've already suggested that to Morrigan. Her reply was that she was going to think about it.

This would help a lot when it comes to the use of German language on album titles and so on. Japanische Kapfhörspiele had a nice error on their page, which was corrected after I reported it: 9 words, 4 mistakes if I remember it right and it was not a recently added and new release.

I'm actually glad with the privileges I have now (Veteran), and wouldn't want anything more... Less to fuck up I guess.
Mistakes are known to happen when people are given too much responsibility, and that's just what you get with more points. Responsibility.

I'll use this thread to ask something:

who's able to use photoshop and couple different covers or photos

I can't and I often need to put covers together (original version and rerelease) or also individual photos from band members

I need someone who can do it quite quickly (not erickg13 lol still waiting a reply to my email )

I haven't done it with band photos before, but I've put a few release covers together. In other words, I can help, at least with cover artwork; it's not really that hard. Band photos, well I could probably do those, as long as all of the photos are the same size. No photoshop required.

Resizing in Photoshop is quite easy, and I've done both kinds before. Can't guarantee that kind of speed though.

I can if you want, I did some editing for you like 2 years ago

If there's so much to do, feel free to send some jpg's (or whatever) to me.
I've done it already on several occasions. Pretty easy with photoshop.

I think it's even more easy with Paint.

Right, but Paint is so limited in it's possibilities, you can't even decompress
too large files.

I use photoshop since two years and added through it a lot of "forgotten" pictures from Polish, but not only bands.

Did personally over 90-ty DVD covers for many rare live concerts...

use paint very easy

Seconded. I made the pics for these bands with paint :
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=97961
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=92897

That really looks like paint too.

So, here's the idea, very simple:

Metal freaks will be able to edit genre and album titles. They will not be able to delete anything. If they make shitty edits, all their points get removed to zero by christkiller.

Sounds good enough, no?

I only agree with allowing them to edit album titles.

But there are literally hundreds of wrong genres on the Archives...

maybe metal demon can edit genre(s)

Yes, I see it before me - ultra raw frostbitten kvlt black metal from Texas. Just no.

Not to think about what genre would some fans give to more melodic bands - even among te high ranked users, you can surely find someone so stupid to change a genre for Dokken and Skid Row to hair metal, not to speak about
other possibilities of use of terms invented by the corporate trendy press. When a veteran user is able to change perfect cover scans to his crappy digital camera LP scans and think he helps the site, we can expect the worst. I read also the reports demanding genre change, and in most cases it is really pointless - like this power metal band is not so melodic, so leave it out of their genre, or put pornogrind to some other band. No, that would be a serious danger.

allowing people to edit genres?? = dangerous

there're specialists here to report changes about genres that have nothing to do with the real genre of the bands

:nop:

Can I report to you here and now that Alcest (on the debut atleast, as thats all I've heard from him) in no way sounds even remotely Black Metal?

Even saying like
Musical Genre - "Black Metal/whatever genre he is now (now)" will do it for me.

edit genre for metal demon ? NO
but edit album title should be available
and maybe deleting albums

No, deleting anything was sorted out completely.

if you wanna change Alcest's genre, contact NEIGE and ask him what to put

I have changed it to black metal (early), darkwave (now). That is an category, where you can put his recent music, judging from the samples on the page, and it is not insulting or anything. If the person behind the band wants to change it, he can report it without problems.

But OzzyApu can still contact him, if he wants, to see if there is not any special better category. Still there is a risk of getting dark melancholic art or something like that for a genre as a result.

Some bands would need a special encyclopaedia on their own just to document their style changes, so one should really ask if it is useful to report every single shift in style.

some people wanted the genre changed to SHOEGAZE

wtf is this?

Black influenced atmospheric rock?

seriously... I see the album as a step towards the things that are yet to come of this band. A lot of ideas that are presented on this record are not fully elaborated and the band will evolve even further in the future. This is a fruitless discussion, because it is leading nowhere. The genre should be approximated and further information should be given in the additional notes; see the band dominus from Denmark.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoegazing

It was a wave of originally british alternative rock bands, which have utilized guitars to create fuzzy psychedelic and somehow noisy wall of sounds, under all this were often hidden almost poppy melodies.

Lifelover are not so far from this actually, even when you hear the rests of the bm guitar sound in their music.

They probably mean the connection to the related dream pop genre.

Such bands were all over 120 minutes on MTV in the early nineties, at least in the British version with Paul King.

You ignored the second part of what I said. What is so hard about just taking people's points away if they are discovered making crappy edits?

As you can see in the "Point Whores", "Cleansing the Archives" and "Oven Fodder"-threads there are many people regularly browsing the Archives for bullshit and reporting misbehaviour to the mods. So really, I don't see the big deal. "ultra raw frostbitten kvlt black metal from Texas"...? Ok, then the guy who put it there is a Metal freak no more because his points are down to zero. Nice and easy.

1. The genres for some controversial bands were elaborated in great effort and only the thought that someone will destroy it is frustrating

2. We do not remember all the bands listed here and the genres and what in case of some obscure band, for which only the name on the net is available.
3. Who do you think will clean the terrible mess:
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=9

Look at the first Blind Guardian releases, at "Walls of Jericho", at Kreator's discography. Nice, isn't it?

And imagine the user has done it also to less known band like High Tension, for which I cannot find the fitting cover now. (My scan would look even worse than his).

There can be some hardly reparable damage.

Not to speak about increased number of bans and whining on the forums.