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Carter
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:43 pm 
 
Piotr_Bojka wrote:
Vinterslav from South Africa - deleted. Nothing released yet.
Submitted by Carter.


I was going off info on Hellspell Production's myspace page (http://www.myspace.com/anxious7)... My bad.
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Nightgaunt
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:52 pm 
 
It happens.

I should note, however, that this is an example of why we often require the stringent amount of proof of (physical) release that we do. Sometimes, even official communiques don't reflect reality, and this can and has even applied to bands far more renowned and successful than Vinterslav.
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:58 am 
 
Rayo X from Argentina - deleted, not metal - hard rock.
Submitted by Edward1981.
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:23 pm 
 
WTF??????????

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=37829
Carthasis (Band) -> release -> Forbidden Site (MISSING)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=12645
Forbidden Site (Band) -> release -> Carthasis (ADDED)

Same band???? I would say so.
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:28 pm 
 
oneyoudontknow wrote:
WTF??????????

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=37829
Carthasis (Band) -> release -> Forbidden Site (MISSING)

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=12645
Forbidden Site (Band) -> release -> Carthasis (ADDED)

Same band???? I would say so.


Hehe. Weird. Removed.
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:31 pm 
 
Removed before you :p
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:02 pm 
 
^ at least we are having some fun here.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=129277
from the band:
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We have changed our name to Diamond Blade. All music written under Mister Scary is not available for release at this time. Possibly in the future.

I read this as: no release.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:15 pm 
 
oneyoudontknow wrote:
^ at least we are having some fun here.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=129277
from the band:
Quote:
We have changed our name to Diamond Blade. All music written under Mister Scary is not available for release at this time. Possibly in the future.

I read this as: no release.


Yes, perhaps you could read it as that. But it could also be read as it was available at one time, but not now.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:12 am 
 
I've removed the band Arena Movediza (hard rock).
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ralfman
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:43 pm 
 
Aäkon Këëtrëh

Dark ambient without major distribution....
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EntilZha
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:56 pm 
 
ralfman wrote:
Aäkon Këëtrëh

Dark ambient without major distribution....

Not a side-project, either. It's his main thingy.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:03 pm 
 
EntilZha wrote:
ralfman wrote:
Aäkon Këëtrëh

Dark ambient without major distribution....

Not a side-project, either. It's his main thingy.

yes, he really needed to focus ... focus on crap.

the band has been discussed before and as it is part of the LLN it will stay. Like so many other Ambient bands...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:22 pm 
 
oneyoudontknow wrote:
LLN


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invoking_the_majesty
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:59 pm 
 
ralfman wrote:
oneyoudontknow wrote:
LLN


?


Les Legiones Noires?
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:41 pm 
 
^ nothing less

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=6239
is classified as rock here:
http://www.musik-sammler.de/artist/23205
but there is one metal track and one non-metal one available online:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A3Qq95XPKA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhtV128QkJs

and they are also (at least) in part a cover band:
http://home.arcor.de/tomary/Musik/Dawed ... aolwa.html
(Review in German)
and also here described as a cover band:
http://home.arcor.de/tomary/Musik/Dawed ... rrlad.html
(their second album)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:00 pm 
 
Recently added band Noriega as a sludge/doom metal band is in fact a hardcore/post-hardcore band should be deleted immediatly. Thanks.
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MaDTransilvanian
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:40 am 
 
I'd like to make a case of the so-called "band" Miserere Luminis.

This isn't so much a band as it is a split album between two bands, Sombres Forêts and Gris (as well as 4 live shows where the split album is played). It even says so on the collaboration project's Myspace:

"...MISERERE LUMINIS is a collaboration album between GRIS and SOMBRES FORÊTS. Don't think of it as a mix of the two bands. It is not a conventionnal split but a special album and a special show."
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:06 pm 
 
I've removed the band Theoadore Mudfoot (already in the database as Theoadore Muddfoot).
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Duisterling
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:36 am 
 
MaDTransilvanian wrote:
This isn't so much a band as it is a split album between two bands, Sombres Forêts and Gris (as well as 4 live shows where the split album is played). It even says so on the collaboration project's Myspace:

"...MISERERE LUMINIS is a collaboration album between GRIS and SOMBRES FORÊTS. Don't think of it as a mix of the two bands. It is not a conventionnal split but a special album and a special show."


So apparently, it isn't a split either. Whether it's a band or not depends on your definition, but it at least seems to be some sort of mutual sideproject: it's undeniably a bunch of guys creating metal music including a full-length album and live shows under one unique name, which I think is enough to get on here.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:24 pm 
 
Duisterling wrote:
MaDTransilvanian wrote:
This isn't so much a band as it is a split album between two bands, Sombres Forêts and Gris (as well as 4 live shows where the split album is played). It even says so on the collaboration project's Myspace:

"...MISERERE LUMINIS is a collaboration album between GRIS and SOMBRES FORÊTS. Don't think of it as a mix of the two bands. It is not a conventionnal split but a special album and a special show."


So apparently, it isn't a split either. Whether it's a band or not depends on your definition, but it at least seems to be some sort of mutual sideproject: it's undeniably a bunch of guys creating metal music including a full-length album and live shows under one unique name, which I think is enough to get on here.


On the other hand, the split has the names of both bands (Gris, Sombres Forêts) written on it, and Miserere Luminis is simply the title. The split isn't divided between the two bands as a conventional split is, but as far as I remember everyone involved with this (at the show, their label, etc) called it "the Gris/Sombres Forêts split" and not "the Miserere Luminis album".

It's not something I've encountered before, so I'm not really sure how this qualifies, it's just that the criteria for being a band are rather thin here.
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Duisterling
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:23 pm 
 
MaDTransilvanian wrote:
On the other hand, the split has the names of both bands (Gris, Sombres Forêts) written on it, and Miserere Luminis is simply the title. The split isn't divided between the two bands as a conventional split is, but as far as I remember everyone involved with this (at the show, their label, etc) called it "the Gris/Sombres Forêts split" and not "the Miserere Luminis album".

It's not something I've encountered before, so I'm not really sure how this qualifies, it's just that the criteria for being a band are rather thin here.


On the cover pic here on M-A I can only decipher ML, no Gris or Sombres Forêts, but I guess you good reason to claim that... If so, all it basically comes down to is that they made a MySpace for a release instead of a project, thus causing confusion. If that's the case, I'd say: remove the band, add the album to the Gris and SF disco's and explain the situation thoroughly in the notes there.

But that's just me, would obviously need mod approval.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:42 am 
 
UndeadIdiot wrote:
UndeadIdiot wrote:
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=54356

Was this accepted under the side-project rule?

If it was or if it wasn't, it still isn't black metal. The two releases listed are ambient, the first says so in the notes of the album and the second is called "industrial/space ambient" on the label's page: http://narqath.tripod.com/releases.htm

I own the Extraterrestrial demo and it is ambient as well.

Anyways, should this be on here?


Any opinions?


Sorry to bring this up again but I realized something. Decay's Delight was removed about a year ago. They were another side project by the same person and a cd-r was released on the Dragonthrone Productions. Stålhammar and Dragonthrone Productions were the same label, just different parts and run by the same person (who is the person behind both of the bands). Should this get removed as well?
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Carter
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:38 pm 
 
Flying Sixtynine is already listed in the archives as The Flying Sixty-Nine.
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DiscreetMachine
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:54 pm 
 
I noticed there were quite a few bands of the same name as eachother.

I mean, shouldn't you demand for a band to change the name if there is already an existing band with that same name?
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:40 pm 
 
Us demand? Or the band demand? Either way, if band members don't want to change it, and they're not forced under law to do so, there's nothing that would or could be done about that.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:04 pm 
 
DiscreetMachine wrote:
I noticed there were quite a few bands of the same name as eachother.

I mean, shouldn't you demand for a band to change the name if there is already an existing band with that same name?

As long as those bands don't have a problem with it, nobody goes to the wrong band's gigs because of it etc. then why should anyone bother.
When some band has the same name as another band that's famous under the same name then it might pose a problem.
That is why Megadeth have had a day or two in court with the band called Megadeath, which the latter lost!
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:16 pm 
 
DiscreetMachine wrote:
I noticed there were quite a few bands of the same name as eachother.

I mean, shouldn't you demand for a band to change the name if there is already an existing band with that same name?


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Nyaricus
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:44 pm 
 
Please, remove this band immediately:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540275446

These guys are NOT metal. They are (really terrible) Christian emo-core. I have NO idea why they were even accepted here in the first place.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:40 pm 
 
Lately added band DKH is not metal another hardcore/post-hardcore band.
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:34 pm 
 
looks a bit fishy:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=112708
see here:
http://www.gepr.net/ra.html
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Raymaker is a Boston-based progressive rock band comprised of: Pat Raymaker - keyboards and vocals, Pete Zacco - guitar, Mike Mallory - bass, occasional keyboards, Geoff Chase - drums and percussion. They have a single CD release entitled Constructing Scenes From The Memory, available at Tower Records in Boston, and a promo tape of a 15-minute song entitled "Descent Into Loneliness" available from the band. The band is comprised of former and current Berklee School of Music students. Pat Raymaker has also composed a rock opera entitled "Portrait Of A Hero" as a soundtrack project. Their musical style could probably best be described as a far more progressive Dream Theater.


and here:
http://web.telia.com/~u85305577/music/m ... s/Proglist
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Raymaker Constructing Scenes From the Memory

Raymaker is a Boston-based progressive rock group with a keyboard sound
that is very reminiscent of old Dream Theater. The vocals aren't great,
but this is mostly due to the mix. The musicianship is good and the
keyboard work is excellent.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:06 pm 
 
oneyoudontknow wrote:
looks a bit fishy:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=112708
see here:
http://www.gepr.net/ra.html
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Raymaker is a Boston-based progressive rock band comprised of: Pat Raymaker - keyboards and vocals, Pete Zacco - guitar, Mike Mallory - bass, occasional keyboards, Geoff Chase - drums and percussion. They have a single CD release entitled Constructing Scenes From The Memory, available at Tower Records in Boston, and a promo tape of a 15-minute song entitled "Descent Into Loneliness" available from the band. The band is comprised of former and current Berklee School of Music students. Pat Raymaker has also composed a rock opera entitled "Portrait Of A Hero" as a soundtrack project. Their musical style could probably best be described as a far more progressive Dream Theater.


and here:
http://web.telia.com/~u85305577/music/m ... s/Proglist
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Raymaker Constructing Scenes From the Memory

Raymaker is a Boston-based progressive rock group with a keyboard sound
that is very reminiscent of old Dream Theater. The vocals aren't great,
but this is mostly due to the mix. The musicianship is good and the
keyboard work is excellent.

So aren't they at the right spot here then? Since Dream Theater IS a metal band.....!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:06 pm 
 
GraveWish wrote:
Lately added band DKH is not metal another hardcore/post-hardcore band.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:41 am 
 
Hey, so I'm pretty active in my local metal scene, but I can't say I've ever seen or heard of this band Hollow Ground:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=80326

http://www.purevolume.com/hollowground204

Their music sounds like a Hatebreed rip-off; ie metallic hardcore, and not really metal. I wouldn't be heartbroken if they stayed, but I've fairly certain this band is only involved with the punk scene (I know it doesn't generally matter to MA, but Winnipeg has a very large 'punk vs. metal' attitude, so it's worth mentioning in context here) and the sound is very much based in that, too.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:57 am 
 
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=76658

Never actually released anything physically.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:22 am 
 
Nyaricus wrote:
Hey, so I'm pretty active in my local metal scene, but I can't say I've ever seen or heard of this band Hollow Ground:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=80326

http://www.purevolume.com/hollowground204

Their music sounds like a Hatebreed rip-off; ie metallic hardcore, and not really metal. I wouldn't be heartbroken if they stayed, but I've fairly certain this band is only involved with the punk scene (I know it doesn't generally matter to MA, but Winnipeg has a very large 'punk vs. metal' attitude, so it's worth mentioning in context here) and the sound is very much based in that, too.

Do you have samples?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:24 am 
 
Fanfarigoule wrote:
Nyaricus wrote:
Hey, so I'm pretty active in my local metal scene, but I can't say I've ever seen or heard of this band Hollow Ground:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=80326

http://www.purevolume.com/hollowground204

Their music sounds like a Hatebreed rip-off; ie metallic hardcore, and not really metal. I wouldn't be heartbroken if they stayed, but I've fairly certain this band is only involved with the punk scene (I know it doesn't generally matter to MA, but Winnipeg has a very large 'punk vs. metal' attitude, so it's worth mentioning in context here) and the sound is very much based in that, too.

Do you have samples?

the second link I posted there, which is also linked in their profile page.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:37 am 
 
Sorry, completely overlooked your second link, they didn't have that link in their profile though. I've deleted them.
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Carter
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:34 pm 
 
http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540276662

Just took another listen to them and they're hardcore... Don't know what I was thinking when I submitted them.

http://www.myspace.com/thediehardsarmy
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Underoath....


can someone explain?
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