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WiReFrAmE
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:34 pm
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:12 pm 
 
Hey all,

I've just tried to submit the band Mantus, based in Germany. It was preemptively rejected. I did a search for Mantus on the forums like I was instructed to, and it turned up no results on this forum.

I can see the most obvious reason that they might be rejected (lack of release), but they have a website that sells their albums (and some T-shirts), and they are CD's, according to the website found here:

http://www.sepia-music.com/shop/index.htm

(click on the MANTUS link on the side)

Other than that, I can see no reason for rejecting the band. They play what is described by Discogs as German gothic metal (of course, I'm new to the metal scene, so I'm not sure if Discogs is a reliable site).

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mantus+%282%29

Please help!
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gatx375
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:05 pm
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:49 pm 
 
After reading the rules, I sill do not see why the band "Amaranthe" was rejected, If it's because they aren't metal enough then I can give you a huge list of less metal bands that are on this site.
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nebuloid
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Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:39 pm
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Location: Italy
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:10 am 
 
hello can I submit the band SCREAM BABY SCREAM ? they play heavy metal / hard rock with shock rock influuences... they don't seem to have industrial nu-metal sound..
let me know ^^
http://www.myspace.com/screambabyscreamrock
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:23 am 
 
gatx375 wrote:
After reading the rules, I sill do not see why the band "Amaranthe" was rejected, If it's because they aren't metal enough then I can give you a huge list of less metal bands that are on this site.

They do not have a physical release yet. Single on itunes is not a valid release.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:24 am 
 
nebuloid wrote:
hello can I submit the band SCREAM BABY SCREAM ? they play heavy metal / hard rock with shock rock influuences... they don't seem to have industrial nu-metal sound..
let me know ^^
http://www.myspace.com/screambabyscreamrock

This thread is for already rejected bands.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:24 am 
 
Superapearmy wrote:
Hi,
This is my first post, but I've used the site for years. I submitted the band Imbroglio and it was rejected for a lack of a discography. I was not sure how the submissions worked, if I had to send you links or if you guys had your own way of finding a discography or verifying that the band is metal enough.

So here is a link to their discography which have both been released physically.
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/mus ... albums.htm

And here is a link to their myspace page and official page.
http://www.myspace.com/imbroglio666
http://imbroglio666.blogspot.com/

The band has also had extremely positive reviews by sites like; Metal Injection, Noisecreep, Decibel Magazine, and Invisible Oranges.

I hope this is enough information to get this great band a page on Encyclopedia Metallum. Thanks!

It sounds like Today is The day, so it is not acceptable musically, not metal enough.


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:26 am 
 
WiReFrAmE wrote:
Hey all,

I've just tried to submit the band Mantus, based in Germany. It was preemptively rejected. I did a search for Mantus on the forums like I was instructed to, and it turned up no results on this forum.

I can see the most obvious reason that they might be rejected (lack of release), but they have a website that sells their albums (and some T-shirts), and they are CD's, according to the website found here:

http://www.sepia-music.com/shop/index.htm

(click on the MANTUS link on the side)

Other than that, I can see no reason for rejecting the band. They play what is described by Discogs as German gothic metal (of course, I'm new to the metal scene, so I'm not sure if Discogs is a reliable site).

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mantus+%282%29

Please help!

present songsamples.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:28 am 
 
jtgilmore13 wrote:
jtgilmore13 wrote:
Hi there. Just wondering why my band Perihelion is being rejected. I feel that we meet all the credentials necessary as listed in the rules. We play death metal, and have a physical release with printed discs and covers (not just some sharpied cd-r), and we play death metal.

What do I need to do to get our band on here?


So the email says it was rejected because I already submitted this band once before. The first time it was rejected because I didn't send proof of a physical release (ie: tinypic link to the album cover). So now what do I do when it gets automatically rejected when I try to send proof of the physical release?

Mods?

Anyone?

Resubmit with proofs.
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nebuloid
Mallcore Kid

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Location: Italy
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:14 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
nebuloid wrote:
hello can I submit the band SCREAM BABY SCREAM ? they play heavy metal / hard rock with shock rock influuences... they don't seem to have industrial nu-metal sound..
let me know ^^
http://www.myspace.com/screambabyscreamrock

This thread is for already rejected bands.


oh ok !
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~Guest 210817
Metal newbie

Joined: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:39 am
Posts: 116
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:05 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
jtgilmore13 wrote:
jtgilmore13 wrote:
Hi there. Just wondering why my band Perihelion is being rejected. I feel that we meet all the credentials necessary as listed in the rules. We play death metal, and have a physical release with printed discs and covers (not just some sharpied cd-r), and we play death metal.

What do I need to do to get our band on here?


So the email says it was rejected because I already submitted this band once before. The first time it was rejected because I didn't send proof of a physical release (ie: tinypic link to the album cover). So now what do I do when it gets automatically rejected when I try to send proof of the physical release?

Mods?

Anyone?

Resubmit with proofs.


Done and done. Thank you!
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hord
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Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:41 am
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Location: France
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:12 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
hord wrote:
Hello,

I can't add the french metal band HORD to the encyclopaedia metallum. They just released their second album, produced by Jochem Jacobs (Textures, Nuclear Blast records). They are a true professional metal band.

Can you help me please.

Kind regards

John (HORD)

Read the first post in this thread.


Dear Witcher,

I've already read it. So? It doesn't explain why I can't this band. HORD's got true records, true shows, etc. Can you help me?

Cheers

John
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Terrion666
Metal newbie

Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:32 pm
Posts: 59
Location: Spain
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:46 pm 
 
Why Morose was rejected? They has a physical release and I have one copy of them

http://www.pest666.com/releases/af-015.php
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Witcher
Metal freak

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Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:09 pm 
 
Terrion666 wrote:
Why Morose was rejected? They has a physical release and I have one copy of them

http://www.pest666.com/releases/af-015.php

It is not metal, sounds like recent Alcest.
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Terrion666
Metal newbie

Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:32 pm
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Location: Spain
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:21 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
Terrion666 wrote:
Why Morose was rejected? They has a physical release and I have one copy of them

http://www.pest666.com/releases/af-015.php

It is not metal, sounds like recent Alcest.


Sure???
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GraveWish
Metalhead

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:36 pm 
 
GraveWish wrote:
Hi,

This band: http://www.myspace.com/bdjapan sounds metal enough especially the newest releases (check the 2011 tracks added on myspace's player) I think it should be removed from the black list.

Opinions?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:40 am 
 
hord wrote:
Witcher wrote:
hord wrote:
Hello,

I can't add the french metal band HORD to the encyclopaedia metallum. They just released their second album, produced by Jochem Jacobs (Textures, Nuclear Blast records). They are a true professional metal band.

Can you help me please.

Kind regards

John (HORD)

Read the first post in this thread.


Dear Witcher,

I've already read it. So? It doesn't explain why I can't this band. HORD's got true records, true shows, etc. Can you help me?

Cheers

John

You have to provide proofs of physical release and metalness, it is explained there.
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Wet Pussy
Waterlogged

Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:13 pm
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Location: Pakistan
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:04 am 
 
It's the first time I'm making a case for a blacklisted band and I'm not even sure if it's allowed so I'm sorry if I'm stepping out of my bounds here.

This is concerning the Metalcore band 'Merauder.' In my opinion they should be here on account of their debut album Master Killer. TBH, the type of metalcore on that album was pretty much 80% metal - there's hardly any trace of core elements and the breakdowns (which are not that common) are not conventional hardcore breakdowns, they're pretty Slayer influenced. Other than that, the riffage shows a clear homage to The End Complete era Obituary (the groove here is clearly indepted to Obituary rather than the type of typical NYHC groove) with some traces of Bolt Thrower.

Here are most of the songs from the debut album (the stuff was hard to find on youtube)

Life is Pain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLlLTdN2PNs

Master Killer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES9IzkdN ... re=related

Mirror Shows Black
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqk1kMC ... re=related

Dead End Path
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTt62mJu ... re=related

Downfall of Christ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hooEVWh84V4

Time Ends
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLt9djYd ... re=related

Save My Soul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4I6enx6 ... re=related

I can understand why they're blacklisted based on the stuff they released after this album (they started taking in nu metal influences and standard beatdown hardcore influences as well), but the first album is pretty much straight up metal.
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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:58 am 
 
I personally back-up the case of Merauder half-thrash/groove metal for this album.

Download album: http://www.mediafire.com/?mxwmi3r1xaz

Hopefully the moderator will for once judge the album content objectively and not the band's name.
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Wet Pussy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:31 am 
 
GraveWish wrote:
I personally back-up the case of Merauder half-thrash/groove metal for this album.

Download album: http://www.mediafire.com/?mxwmi3r1xaz

Hopefully the moderator will for once judge the album content objectively and not the band's name.


To my experience, this site's judgements have always been objective. If it isn't metal to them, or is just borderline it's fine with me.
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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:14 am 
 
Wet Pussy wrote:
GraveWish wrote:
I personally back-up the case of Merauder half-thrash/groove metal for this album.

Download album: http://www.mediafire.com/?mxwmi3r1xaz

Hopefully the moderator will for once judge the album content objectively and not the band's name.


To my experience, this site's judgements have always been objective. If it isn't metal to them, or is just borderline it's fine with me.


No it's not borderline anyway each person has a different point of view in judging bands. Well regarding being objectif I personally noticed that sometimes they decision is not quite objective but after all maybe this is just a feeling let's wait and see about this band.


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Wet Pussy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:18 am 
 
Maybe. By the way, would you really call it groove metal? It doesn't really sound like Thrash or INdustrial derived groove anyway, the type that Prong and Pantera did. Feels a lot more Obituary influenced, especially with those occasional deathmetal style tremolo riffs. Anyway, it's cool to see I'm not alone in thinking the band should be given another shot at on MA.
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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:23 am 
 
For me it sounds rather thrash derived groove anyway their is definitely some death metal influences the genre can be discussed later let's see first the mod's opinion about the metalness aof this release.
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Skotos
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Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:19 pm
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Location: Greece
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:42 pm 
 
Hi...Im trying to add the band ''Darkehl''....My submission is always rejected. I checked my email and they say ''Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography.'' Here, there's some info about my band and the proof about my release http://hellenicblackmetalfront.blogspot ... rkehl.html .....I uploaded everything that i had to upload and also i put the demo with title, number of tracks, lyrics and the cover of the cd. I have written some information too. Why my submission is always rejected???


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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:43 pm 
 
Skotos wrote:
Hi...Im trying to add the band ''Darkehl''....My submission is always rejected. I checked my email and they say ''Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography.'' I uploaded everything that i had to upload and also i put the demo with title, number of tracks, lyrics and the cover of the cd. I have written some information too. Why my submission is always rejected???

Read the first post in this thread. There were no valid proofs.
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Skotos
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:46 pm 
 
ckeckout this http://hellenicblackmetalfront.blogspot ... rkehl.html
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:47 pm 
 
Skotos wrote:
ckeckout this http://hellenicblackmetalfront.blogspot ... rkehl.html

That is no proof of physical release.
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Skotos
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:51 pm 
 
What would be a proof????...Do you want a link for the demo???
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:57 pm 
 
Skotos wrote:
What would be a proof????...Do you want a link for the demo???

Do you know what a physical release is? If not read the first post in that thread.
Why don't you actually do what I have told you?
Physical release - Lp, Cd. Cd-r, tape.
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Skotos
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:03 pm 
 
I read the post...Well i have a CD release.....
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:09 pm 
 
So, for the last time, read the first post, it explains all about proofs. A picture of the whole Cd including cover can be a proof.
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nebuloid
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:28 pm 
 
about the sludge/drone metal band Jagannah (italy), it was rejected for a lack of information, or no apparent discography.

the samples are on their myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jagannah
there are tracks of both their first indipendent album and their second on Cynic Lab Rec.

can I resubmit?
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Lord_Lexy
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Location: Belgium
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:17 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
Lord_Lexy wrote:
I would like to submit the band Dibbukim:
-> They already have released a (physical) single
-> Their music sounds "metal enough"


but when submitting the band, I get a message that the band has previously been rejected. I can provide the necessary links to the shop, MySpace, label, but I can't find any mention of the band in the forum and so I don't know why it was previously rejected. Could any of the mods help me here?

The song is a cover of a Jewish folk song and cover only bands are not acceptable. Wait for original material by them.

The band has released information on their debut, which contains original material. Is it possible to lift the ban so the band can be added?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:10 pm 
 
Lord_Lexy wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Lord_Lexy wrote:
I would like to submit the band Dibbukim:
-> They already have released a (physical) single
-> Their music sounds "metal enough"


but when submitting the band, I get a message that the band has previously been rejected. I can provide the necessary links to the shop, MySpace, label, but I can't find any mention of the band in the forum and so I don't know why it was previously rejected. Could any of the mods help me here?

The song is a cover of a Jewish folk song and cover only bands are not acceptable. Wait for original material by them.

The band has released information on their debut, which contains original material. Is it possible to lift the ban so the band can be added?

No, since it is not yet released.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:11 pm 
 
Lord_Lexy wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Lord_Lexy wrote:
I would like to submit the band Dibbukim:
-> They already have released a (physical) single
-> Their music sounds "metal enough"


but when submitting the band, I get a message that the band has previously been rejected. I can provide the necessary links to the shop, MySpace, label, but I can't find any mention of the band in the forum and so I don't know why it was previously rejected. Could any of the mods help me here?

The song is a cover of a Jewish folk song and cover only bands are not acceptable. Wait for original material by them.

The band has released information on their debut, which contains original material. Is it possible to lift the ban so the band can be added?

No, since it is not yet released.
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nebuloid
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:08 pm 
 
nebuloid wrote:
about the sludge/drone metal band Jagannah (italy), it was rejected for a lack of information, or no apparent discography.

the samples are on their myspace: http://www.myspace.com/jagannah
there are tracks of both their first indipendent album and their second on Cynic Lab Rec.

can I resubmit?


can i try to submit again ?
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nebuloid
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:09 pm 
 
i tried to submit a death/thrash band called Horror Vacui (they made one demo in 2009)

http://www.myspace.com/horrorvacuisound

a name with the same name results to be rejected, is it possible to resubmit?

thanks ^^
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GraveWish
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:26 pm 
 
Any answer about:

Merauder: http://www.mediafire.com/?mxwmi3r1xaz

Beyond Description: http://www.myspace.com/bdjapan (especially check the 3 tracks from their 2011 album, clearly acceptable crossover/thrash metal)
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lightenunderground
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:43 pm 
 
Hi!
I sent you the other day data for incorporate in metal archives files the band 3foldpain (see please: www.myspace.com/3foldpain).
I believe I have sent you all data the way it is requested above.
Could you please be so kind enough to let me know what went wrong and this band's data haven't been upload yet?

Awaiting for your kind answers,

Cheers
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hord
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Location: France
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:21 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
hord wrote:
Witcher wrote:
hord wrote:
Hello,

I can't add the french metal band HORD to the encyclopaedia metallum. They just released their second album, produced by Jochem Jacobs (Textures, Nuclear Blast records). They are a true professional metal band.

Can you help me please.

Kind regards

John (HORD)

Read the first post in this thread.


Dear Witcher,

I've already read it. So? It doesn't explain why I can't this band. HORD's got true records, true shows, etc. Can you help me?

Cheers

John

You have to provide proofs of physical release and metalness, it is explained there.


How do you want I provide proofs of physical release and metalness? Giving links here?

HORD is produced by producer Jochem Jacobs. They just released their new album THE WASTE LAND as you can see here :

http://hord.bandcamp.com/
http://itunes.apple.com/fr/album/the-wa ... d405205361
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keyword ... and&page=1

You can read reviews of the album here showing how Hord is playing a cyber industiral metal :

http://www.pavillon666.fr/chronique-metal-5553.php
http://www.french-metal.com/chroniques/hord.html
http://www.metalland.org/index.php?page ... ue&id=2938
http://www.magicfiremusic.net/chronique ... ic&id=3575
http://www.pavillon666.fr/interview-met ... ec8578dd30
http://www.radiometal.com/article/arno- ... asse,16539
http://www.magicfiremusic.net/itw.php?cat=itw&id=398
http://fr.metalship.org/albums/13234-Th ... #chro-2538
http://radiomusicos.musique.com/654135/ ... o-Musicos/
http://www.radiometal.com/article/arno- ... asse,16539
http://www.metality.net/2010/11/hord-of-djent.html
http://www.vs-webzine.com/new.php
http://www.eklektik-rock.com/2011/01/ho ... ment-12474
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion ... Maurilbert
http://www.nawakposse.com/
http://www.metalland.org/index.php?page ... iew&id=138
http://www.nouvelle-vague.com/chronique ... 1bf411953b

Is it enough?

Best regards

John
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:29 am 
 
Yes, submit Hord.
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