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ladygagaisbrutal
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:33 pm 
 
Alhadis wrote:
ladygagaisbrutal wrote:
I submitted a band I'm in but it was rejected due to being not metal. In the info I listed hardstyle techno as a genre. This is not our usual genre, our main genre is nintedocore. In our upcoming album we expiremented with techno, but were stilla nintedocore band. I don't know what your opinion on nintendocore is, but our music is heavier than most nintendocore. I recomend you go to our youtube chanel called "BlesingDesecTV" and listen to the song "persistence". Our older music is more industrial grindcore style and it was vey poorly made and ee are somewhat embarressed of our old recording methods, so please don't judge us on that. Remember, a lot of people visit MA, so even if something isn't your cup of tea there are many others who enjoy it. Thank u.


None of the following styles are metal:
- Hardstyle Techno
- Nintendocore
- Industrial
- Grindcore (with little metal influence)

This is an encyclopaedia for metal, not electronica.



if u would please listen to this song, u may change your mind. we make heavy music with serious lyrics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfeezbzO6Ss

remember that your audience is large and not everyone has the same taste as u. u have lots of grindcore and metalcore/deathcore bands here. if you accept shadows fall but not us, then u have issues.
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droneriot
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:19 am 
 
ENKC wrote:
So, my copy of Voyeurs by 2wo (Two) arrived and I've noticed that the band has been removed. I know it's not metal per se, but it was here the last time I checked a few weeks ago. I presume it was here for such a long time under the side project rule. What then is the rationale for its removal? Seems a shame to not have every Halford project on here really.

It was removed because it was not a side-project.
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:21 am 
 
ladygagaisbrutal wrote:
if u would please listen to this song, u may change your mind. we make heavy music with serious lyrics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfeezbzO6Ss

remember that your audience is large and not everyone has the same taste as u. u have lots of grindcore and metalcore/deathcore bands here. if you accept shadows fall but not us, then u have issues.

You do not even play any of these styles. Your band is not metal in the slightest.
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ENKC
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:41 am 
 
droneriot wrote:
ENKC wrote:
So, my copy of Voyeurs by 2wo (Two) arrived and I've noticed that the band has been removed. I know it's not metal per se, but it was here the last time I checked a few weeks ago. I presume it was here for such a long time under the side project rule. What then is the rationale for its removal? Seems a shame to not have every Halford project on here really.

It was removed because it was not a side-project.

Do you mean to tell me that if he'd still been nominally in one of his other bands at the time, it would be a legitimate side project?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:06 am 
 
ENKC wrote:
droneriot wrote:
ENKC wrote:
So, my copy of Voyeurs by 2wo (Two) arrived and I've noticed that the band has been removed. I know it's not metal per se, but it was here the last time I checked a few weeks ago. I presume it was here for such a long time under the side project rule. What then is the rationale for its removal? Seems a shame to not have every Halford project on here really.

It was removed because it was not a side-project.

Do you mean to tell me that if he'd still been nominally in one of his other bands at the time, it would be a legitimate side project?

Yes, read the guidelines, they explain it quite clearly. And please stop trying, the case is closed.

For your information:
- Side-projects are a big debate. When does a band stop being one and starts being a full-time band? What's the difference between a solo career and a side-project, etc. Now, a side-project is a band started in parallel to another band. This is not the same thing as a band member leaving a band and forming a new one, or to join another band! For example, Soulfly is no more a side-project of Max Cavalera as Voivod is a side-project of Jason Newsted.
One might argue that a band can start as such but can stop being one if the main band splits-up. Or that while it's reasonable to have Wongraven or Chaostar, that a country band started by a Flotsam & Jetsam member would simply look out of place on a metal site. Our answer is that we have no choice but to go with a case by case approach. It might be a little arbitrary, but it's hard to define a rule that will apply for every case of a non-metal side-project. Yes, that might mean you'll have to ask us before submitting this guy's side-project. Usually there shouldn't be any problem, but if the side-project really has nothing to do with the heavy metal scene and/or would really look out of place here, chances are, it won't be accepted.
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nekroadept
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:20 am 
 
nekroadept wrote:
Witcher wrote:
nekroadept wrote:
Hi guys.

Why Caligulae Crucis page has been deleted?


Either the band has no physical discography, or it was not metal.

It's a black metal band, and has it's discography.

Can somebody answer, please?

It's very difficult to find info about CC and that page was quite te one source of information.

Why has been deleted?
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:37 am 
 
If the band was wrongfully deleted, you have to prove it. Your word is not enough, of course.
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gnfnr77
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:47 am 
 
I've been rejected twice. Gauss is a band. All you have to do is go to www.gaussmusic.com and you can download a free 12 minute song. Or... google gauss /Demiricous and see that 1000 websites have posted our link and are supporting us including blabbermouth.

So...
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:52 am 
 
gnfnr77 wrote:
I've been rejected twice. Gauss is a band. All you have to do is go to www.gaussmusic.com and you can download a free 12 minute song. Or... google gauss /Demiricous and see that 1000 websites have posted our link and are supporting us including blabbermouth.

So...

A somg is not a physical release. Read the first post in this thread.
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Czerwik
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:01 pm 
 
Why was Parkway Drive deleted???
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:18 pm 
 
Czerwik wrote:
Why was Parkway Drive deleted???

Because they are too modern -core based.

People stop asking about famous metalcore bands and read what the rules say about the genre.
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Foxpiper
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:50 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
Alhadis wrote:
I know Les Discrets are a post-rock/shoegaze band, but their album "Septembre et ses dernières Pensées" sounded noticeably heavier than typical post-rock albums... leaning more towards the Gothic Metal spectrum, at least in some areas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaF5BDuOqe4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv8cbObViAA

It's still very dreamy, laid back music, I know... but the percussion and guitars liken it more to Alcest's style than, say, Sigur Rós.

Recent Alcest is not metal either. This shoegaze "black" movement is almost as bad as metalcore in creating unacceptable releases.


I have written to Fursy Teyssier regarding this issue and he said that he considers Les Discrets to be a metal band instead of shoegaze, etc. Is this enough to overturn the band's rejection from the website or do the words of the original artist mean nothing? I can email you his statement if proof is needed.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:57 pm 
 
Foxpiper wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Alhadis wrote:
I know Les Discrets are a post-rock/shoegaze band, but their album "Septembre et ses dernières Pensées" sounded noticeably heavier than typical post-rock albums... leaning more towards the Gothic Metal spectrum, at least in some areas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaF5BDuOqe4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv8cbObViAA

It's still very dreamy, laid back music, I know... but the percussion and guitars liken it more to Alcest's style than, say, Sigur Rós.

Recent Alcest is not metal either. This shoegaze "black" movement is almost as bad as metalcore in creating unacceptable releases.


I have written to Fursy Teyssier regarding this issue and he said that he considers Les Discrets to be a metal band instead of shoegaze, etc. Is this enough to overturn the band's rejection from the website or do the words of the original artist mean nothing? I can email you his statement if proof is needed.

We have heard the music, that is all that matters. How do they call it does not matter.
Besides that, you would need a lot of fantasy to call the music they produce now metal - there are almost no aggressive riffs.
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:04 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
Foxpiper wrote:
I have written to Fursy Teyssier regarding this issue and he said that he considers Les Discrets to be a metal band instead of shoegaze, etc. Is this enough to overturn the band's rejection from the website or do the words of the original artist mean nothing? I can email you his statement if proof is needed.

We have heard the music, that is all that matters. How do they call it does not matter.
Besides that, you would need a lot of fantasy to call the music they produce now metal - there are almost no aggressive riffs.

"britney spears is metal" yields 426 results on Google. Would that be enough to include her on the archives?
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:57 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
Besides that, you would need a lot of fantasy to call the music they produce now metal - there are almost no aggressive riffs.

That's entering a well-recognised field of ambiguity; there's a lot of Gothic Metal bands on this site who lack aggressive riffs too.

Witcher wrote:
We have heard the music, that is all that matters. How do they call it does not matter.

Yes, their earlier music is more shoegaze than anything else.

But the album Septembre Et Ses Dernières Pensées is enough to touch on the Gothic Metal spectrum, in my ears. Have a listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaF5BDuOqe4&feature=related
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:12 pm 
 
Alhadis wrote:
But the album Septembre Et Ses Dernières Pensées is enough to touch on the Gothic Metal spectrum, in my ears. Have a listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaF5BDuOqe4&feature=related
The first minute or so maybe, but then ... not really. This is also stuff you find in normal post-rock bands, but this does not make them metal. I skipped through some other tracks and there often nothing more than vague glimpses of metal... glimpses.
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:37 pm 
 
oneyoudontknow wrote:
The first minute or so maybe, but then ... not really. This is also stuff you find in normal post-rock bands, but this does not make them metal. I skipped through some other tracks and there often nothing more than vague glimpses of metal... glimpses.


Again, I'm not tryin' to bring up the "But you accepted Band X, why not Band Y?!" debate, but I can honestly say there's a lot of pussier bands on the Archives than these guys. But hey, I won't beat a dead horse. Just saying it's easier to see them as not heavy enough when you juxtapose them against their earlier material. If I were playing that album along a Gothic metal playlist, it wouldn't feel too out of place.

(Not that you'd catch me listening to it, heh. There's more than one reason I can't stand gothic_metal.)

[Edit: Okay, I'm sorry, but the underscore was kind of unpreventable]
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ladygagaisbrutal
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:48 pm 
 
Fanfarigoule wrote:
ladygagaisbrutal wrote:
if u would please listen to this song, u may change your mind. we make heavy music with serious lyrics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfeezbzO6Ss

remember that your audience is large and not everyone has the same taste as u. u have lots of grindcore and metalcore/deathcore bands here. if you accept shadows fall but not us, then u have issues.

You do not even play any of these styles. Your band is not metal in the slightest.


Did u even listen to the song? What is so "non metal" about a song with deep atmospheric gutturals and fast drums with some blast beats combined with fast paced synthesizer. MA has a whole section in the "browse by genre" section for electronic/industrial metal bands. Not to mention, this website is fullly willing to accept killswitch engage.
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nekroadept
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:04 pm 
 
Fanfarigoule wrote:
If the band was wrongfully deleted, you have to prove it. Your word is not enough, of course.

Beh, what can I do to prove it?

Have a look at google, for example... http://www.google.it/#sclient=psy&hl=it ... 34127d5159

Here two reviews:

http://www.granducatodimetallo.it/forum ... topic=2960
http://www.debaser.it/recensionidb/ID_2 ... hamber.htm
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aka137
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:00 am 
 
ladygagaisbrutal wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
ladygagaisbrutal wrote:
if u would please listen to this song, u may change your mind. we make heavy music with serious lyrics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfeezbzO6Ss

remember that your audience is large and not everyone has the same taste as u. u have lots of grindcore and metalcore/deathcore bands here. if you accept shadows fall but not us, then u have issues.

You do not even play any of these styles. Your band is not metal in the slightest.


Did u even listen to the song? What is so "non metal" about a song with deep atmospheric gutturals and fast drums with some blast beats combined with fast paced synthesizer. MA has a whole section in the "browse by genre" section for electronic/industrial metal bands. Not to mention, this website is fullly willing to accept killswitch engage.


the problemn with your band is that it is primarly electronic/industrial their dosnt appears to be any real elements that would define it as a metal band
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:35 am 
 
AngelWitch666 wrote:
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I was just listening to Ratt's first two albums and I really can't believe they're not considered "metal" or at least "close enough" on this site. Yes, I know they are glam -- so what? They are no more pop-sounding than Motley Crue or Skid Row. Plus, Ratt's guitar sound has a nice "crunch" to it, which makes it very "metal"-sounding to me. I do think that they should be added on here because they do show off a very "metal" vibe -- even if they are a glam metal band. So what? That doesn't necessarily make their music similar to Poison (USA)'s.

Here are the songs which I find to be predominantly metal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0e9DrbKTKE (if the intro did not sound "metal" to you then I feel sorry for you)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4KQ6zrLniw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vSV5k7pttU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCtMerVS4-c (probably the heaviest from their debut)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hsCr_LfcWw (another fast heavy metal song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA76aaYrfMc (this starts out VERY *heavy* for a glam metal band)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOXqYU3P1Sw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IflQJ0LCUu8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BONY21aTtno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFMk4BPeIpU (very metal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M9e9RLYOmk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_gGWsqd8Ec (you can't go wrong with the metallic guitar sound here, which is right up there with early Crue)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7SUMWTNyRQ

And the following from their latest album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeIfv8cOKp8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pTRhExEcwQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtZ283uOqJE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lximm0sOalw

If you disagree with the views of this post, then I would be more than glad to hear your reasons as to why. And not only that, but I actually want LEGIT reasons that they're not "metal enough" to be added on the Archives. (Because I feel that they are so very metal.) If I would give them genres, they'd (obviously) be: Glam/heavy metal, hard rock

Please listen to all the songs linked above before responding to this post. Thank you.

OK, I just tried submitting this band just now and it was preemptively rejected. Why? Metal-Archives' reasoning: "Unless it's a different band with the same name, Ratt has previously been rejected for not being metal or otherwise acceptable by our rules."

First off, I am in full disagreement over Ratt not being metal enough; their sound is quite similar to that of Quiet Riot, Scorpions, and Twisted Sister. Listen to the samples I provided on the post I am quoting and tell me how they are "not metal enough"? And second, what do you mean by "otherwise (not) acceptable by our rules"? Sure, they're glam, and I can't debate against that. However, in their own right, they still put out songs that reek of old school heavy metal. Listen to the heavy guitars... especially on how *tight* they sound in the intro to the song "Back for More," the heavy-as-fuck "Wanted Man," and the Judas Priest sounding "I'm Insane." The music should speak for itself: it is heavy, brash, and "riffy" as well. Therefore, it has the right attitude and sound of metal, in my eyes. There really is no other reason for them being rejected other than it being based on simply personal opinions of the staff here.

Bump.
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Fanfarigoule
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:19 am 
 
nekroadept wrote:
Fanfarigoule wrote:
If the band was wrongfully deleted, you have to prove it. Your word is not enough, of course.

Beh, what can I do to prove it?

Have a look at google, for example... http://www.google.it/#sclient=psy&hl=it ... 34127d5159

Here two reviews:

http://www.granducatodimetallo.it/forum ... topic=2960
http://www.debaser.it/recensionidb/ID_2 ... hamber.htm

I understood the band was on MA and has been deleted, but I think you mean you submitted it and it was rejected since I can't find their cache profile. So, if they were rejected read the first post of this thread: you need a proof of physical release and a proof of metalness.
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:11 am 
 
ladygagaisbrutal wrote:
Did u even listen to the song? What is so "non metal" about a song with deep atmospheric gutturals and fast drums with some blast beats combined with fast paced synthesizer. MA has a whole section in the "browse by genre" section for electronic/industrial metal bands. Not to mention, this website is fullly willing to accept killswitch engage.


Do you even know what "metal" is?

I'm honestly ready to interpret your ignorance as trolling. Your screen name isn't helping your credibility, either.
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Foxpiper
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:28 pm 
 
Witcher wrote:
Foxpiper wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Alhadis wrote:
I know Les Discrets are a post-rock/shoegaze band, but their album "Septembre et ses dernières Pensées" sounded noticeably heavier than typical post-rock albums... leaning more towards the Gothic Metal spectrum, at least in some areas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaF5BDuOqe4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv8cbObViAA

It's still very dreamy, laid back music, I know... but the percussion and guitars liken it more to Alcest's style than, say, Sigur Rós.

Recent Alcest is not metal either. This shoegaze "black" movement is almost as bad as metalcore in creating unacceptable releases.


I have written to Fursy Teyssier regarding this issue and he said that he considers Les Discrets to be a metal band instead of shoegaze, etc. Is this enough to overturn the band's rejection from the website or do the words of the original artist mean nothing? I can email you his statement if proof is needed.

We have heard the music, that is all that matters. How do they call it does not matter.
Besides that, you would need a lot of fantasy to call the music they produce now metal - there are almost no aggressive riffs.


Well, if Les Discrets' next album is accepted as being metal (of the acceptable type), then can the band be included on this website? According to an interview with Metal.pl, Fursy says that the next album will be darker and include some songs he would have used for Amesoeurs.
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Rob1
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:59 pm 
 
What is this music called Shoegaze? Is it that much interesting that people start gazing at their shoes because they are too embarassed that they have made or are even listening to that music?
The name doesn't give a hint af anything metal in it as well!

How people can bring up such music as a valid Metal genre is a mystery in itself! :brick:
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HeWhoIsInTheWater
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:55 pm 
 
Allright so I have tried adding this band twice, both times rejected on the lack of physical evidence of their existence. As per the message, I am giving you proof here.
Websites: http://www.myspace.com/closeyoureyesmusic
http://www.victoryrecords.com/closeyoureyes
Picture of their album, released in 2010, which I own a physical copy of.
http://www.newreleasetuesday.com/albumd ... g=2&page=1
Hopefully this clears things up.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:53 pm 
 
HeWhoIsInTheWater wrote:
Allright so I have tried adding this band twice, both times rejected on the lack of physical evidence of their existence. As per the message, I am giving you proof here.
Websites: http://www.myspace.com/closeyoureyesmusic
http://www.victoryrecords.com/closeyoureyes
Picture of their album, released in 2010, which I own a physical copy of.
http://www.newreleasetuesday.com/albumd ... g=2&page=1
Hopefully this clears things up.

This is a modern hardcore band, not metal. So kindly leave it be, it is not musically acceptable.
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HeWhoIsInTheWater
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:10 pm 
 
Thank you. The emails did not say they were rejected because they were not metal, so I apologize for the confusion.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:48 pm 
 
Foxpiper wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Foxpiper wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Alhadis wrote:
I know Les Discrets are a post-rock/shoegaze band, but their album "Septembre et ses dernières Pensées" sounded noticeably heavier than typical post-rock albums... leaning more towards the Gothic Metal spectrum, at least in some areas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaF5BDuOqe4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv8cbObViAA

It's still very dreamy, laid back music, I know... but the percussion and guitars liken it more to Alcest's style than, say, Sigur Rós.

Recent Alcest is not metal either. This shoegaze "black" movement is almost as bad as metalcore in creating unacceptable releases.


I have written to Fursy Teyssier regarding this issue and he said that he considers Les Discrets to be a metal band instead of shoegaze, etc. Is this enough to overturn the band's rejection from the website or do the words of the original artist mean nothing? I can email you his statement if proof is needed.

We have heard the music, that is all that matters. How do they call it does not matter.
Besides that, you would need a lot of fantasy to call the music they produce now metal - there are almost no aggressive riffs.


Well, if Les Discrets' next album is accepted as being metal (of the acceptable type), then can the band be included on this website? According to an interview with Metal.pl, Fursy says that the next album will be darker and include some songs he would have used for Amesoeurs.

In order for that band to qualify, they must have at least one or more releases that are predominantly metal. Even Def Leppard is accepted around here because of their debut full-length album being considered NWOBHM.
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Tot_alVital
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:55 pm 
 
I want to submit SEELENPFADE from Germany. This project has released the first demo in the end of 2010 which is called 'Trauernd der Unendlichkeit entgegen'. Its Black Metal.

Please give free.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:29 pm 
 
AngelWitch666 wrote:
Foxpiper wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Foxpiper wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Alhadis wrote:
I know Les Discrets are a post-rock/shoegaze band, but their album "Septembre et ses dernières Pensées" sounded noticeably heavier than typical post-rock albums... leaning more towards the Gothic Metal spectrum, at least in some areas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaF5BDuOqe4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv8cbObViAA

It's still very dreamy, laid back music, I know... but the percussion and guitars liken it more to Alcest's style than, say, Sigur Rós.

Recent Alcest is not metal either. This shoegaze "black" movement is almost as bad as metalcore in creating unacceptable releases.


I have written to Fursy Teyssier regarding this issue and he said that he considers Les Discrets to be a metal band instead of shoegaze, etc. Is this enough to overturn the band's rejection from the website or do the words of the original artist mean nothing? I can email you his statement if proof is needed.

We have heard the music, that is all that matters. How do they call it does not matter.
Besides that, you would need a lot of fantasy to call the music they produce now metal - there are almost no aggressive riffs.


Well, if Les Discrets' next album is accepted as being metal (of the acceptable type), then can the band be included on this website? According to an interview with Metal.pl, Fursy says that the next album will be darker and include some songs he would have used for Amesoeurs.

In order for that band to qualify, they must have at least one or more releases that are predominantly metal. Even Def Leppard is accepted around here because of their debut full-length album being considered NWOBHM.


Thank you for clarifying that for me. If that is the case, then I shall keep my fingers crossed and hope Les Discrets' next album is worthy of being called metal.
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fetalfeast
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:54 pm 
 
Don't sweat it. A common misconception is that not metal=bad. Just because they aren't accepted on here doesn't mean the mods think they're bad (unless you're Witcher :P ). They just aren't metal.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:42 am 
 
Tot_alVital wrote:
I want to submit SEELENPFADE from Germany. This project has released the first demo in the end of 2010 which is called 'Trauernd der Unendlichkeit entgegen'. Its Black Metal.

Please give free.


Read the first post in this thread.
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Tot_alVital
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:07 am 
 
Witcher wrote:
Tot_alVital wrote:
I want to submit SEELENPFADE from Germany. This project has released the first demo in the end of 2010 which is called 'Trauernd der Unendlichkeit entgegen'. Its Black Metal.

Please give free.


Read the first post in this thread.


Myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/seelenpfade

There you can see all what I said.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:15 am 
 
Tot_alVital wrote:
Witcher wrote:
Tot_alVital wrote:
I want to submit SEELENPFADE from Germany. This project has released the first demo in the end of 2010 which is called 'Trauernd der Unendlichkeit entgegen'. Its Black Metal.

Please give free.


Read the first post in this thread.


Myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/seelenpfade

There you can see all what I said.

O.K., resubmit.
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Mharabserapel
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:06 am 
 
I've been trying to submit a friend's band and it's been declined twice. At my first attempt, my firefox crashed and I lost the discography information I've written so far. I even reported an error on the submission page explaining what happened. Thus, I understand the rejection.

So I added a second time, this time with proper discography. However, the submission wasn't approved, even though I added all the information needed.

The band's Begotten in Pain.

What's wrong?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:22 am 
 
Mharabserapel wrote:
I've been trying to submit a friend's band and it's been declined twice. At my first attempt, my firefox crashed and I lost the discography information I've written so far. I even reported an error on the submission page explaining what happened. Thus, I understand the rejection.

So I added a second time, this time with proper discography. However, the submission wasn't approved, even though I added all the information needed.

The band's Begotten in Pain.

What's wrong?

You need to provide proof of physical release and metalness. read the first post in this thread.
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Mharabserapel
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:31 am 
 
I understand, as I have submitted one band before. Just to understand the rules better: Do I have to include photos of physical release on EVERY submission? Why on earth would I invent a whole discography on internet and submit it here? Prove metalness on a black metal band?

Also, the guy behind the band is in a band that has already been accepted here. I really don't get this. If it were my band I would just leave it alone, but i'm doing a favor for a friend here. Please cooperate.

Do I post the physical proof here or on the side notes when re-submiting?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:43 am 
 
Mharabserapel wrote:
I understand, as I have submit one band before. Just to understand the rules better: Do I have to include photos of physical release on EVERY submission? Why on earth would I invent a whole discography on internet and submit it here? Prove metalness on a black metal band?

Do I post the physical proof here or on the side notes when re-submiting?

Put it into the side notes.
If you have a link to distro or a merchadise link, then you do not have to make a scan.
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bertonealcrew
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:54 am 
 
hi! my request wasn't acceppted because i didn't give a proof of the existence of my band's first demo! i can show a link of the facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Olocausto ... 779?v=info) is written in the discography,and there is a photo in the "CDs cover" album.... , unfortunately i can't do a photo because even i don't have this record,we made few copy of them!!!!! trust me we have all physical relases,then when i will have some free time,i will submit the other relases with proof!! bye
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