Im getting a deathcore/metalcore/horrible/generic band name overdose at the moment from this thread.

To steer it away, im a huge Agathocles fan. As most people would know, the band has been around for a hell of a long time, and probably rank's number 1 with 'Most releases from a band ever' title. For as long as they have been active, and for as many outputs they have, i must say ive never really come across to many bands that play music that 'blatantly' worships Agathocles and does it well for that matter.

There is Farenhiet AGX, which is a Jan-Agathocles side-project, which is pretty cool. Just Agathocles with a stonger powerviolence nature. Then there is Archagathus, who are pretty blatant Agathocles worship, with a few minor other influences written in. Not bad at all. Anybody have any reccomendations? Im more of a fan of the 'Mincer' era of Agathocles, but most of it kicks ass.

The closest thing I've found to Insect Warfare's grind greatness is Kill The Client's "Cleptocracy".

Thats exactly what explains it... the latest ALOL sounds more like Pantera/Down rip off.

Can anybody help me find some straight up Agoraphobic Nosebleed worship? Preferably more in the vein of "Frozen Corpse Stuffed With Dope".

I haven't really found any AnB worship bands, but i havent really looked either. I wouldnt be suprised if there are a lot out there, considering the size of the 'bedroom-oneman band-cybergrind' community. Whether any of them are good or not, i don't know. Going by the number of offshoots these sorts of grind bands usually inspire, the majority of it is shit.

I would suggest you just try bands that produce a 'similar' sound to AnB i.e: Brutally fast/Groove/Brutally fast. If you haven't tried/or don't know these bands, i would suggest starting with:

Fuck Im Dead
Gutted With Broken Glass

It's about time I check out that album then. xD. Should have done so a long time ago.

Kill the Client's Cleptocracy ranks as probably my favorite grind release this year, especially considering the amount of quality grind outputs. I'd say its even better than Insect Warfare, but that's just me really.

Thank you, wigglygore.




Its very, very pissed off grind. Probably the best grind release of 2008.




Naw, I honestly do not think anything will ever beat Insect Warfare. World Extermination gets better with every listen. But, that is only my opinion. I'm sure some pre-90's only grindfreak would disagree.

Heh, World Extermination never really clicked with me, though that may be because I didn't give it too many spins. Either way though, I prefer my grind albums to be as short as possible, the reason for that being I find the adrenaline rush I get from good grind decreases with increased listening. It really depends on my mood though, and I think that only really happens when I listen to one artist or album, though I don't have to listen to them repeatedly. For my money, Endless Execution Thru Violent Restitution is the best Insect Warfare release.

okay, i can understand making a metalcore/deathcore thread for the small percentage of "metalheads" that like these styles of "metal", but please, DON'T throw grindcore in with those genres. we can add grindcore to a better thread title with more similar styles. add screamo instead, lol. i don't want to see Napalm Death on a fucking Vans Warped Tour ever!

Seeing as you weren't around during the early days of this thread...

Anyone here a fan of Parlamentarisk Sodomi? They're not featured here on the archives for some reason but their latest CD is just flat-out fucking ridiculous. Forget Kill the Client, this is catchiest grind release this year. For those who prefer old-school grind along the lines of Terrorizer/Repulsion then I highly reccomend seeking this gem out.

Nice find there!
Another band that deserves more praise is Sayyadina, very catchy grindcore in the vein of Nasum and Pig Destroyer.

I came across them in a Grind and Punishment article sometime ago. They're fairly decent. I've yet to finish listening to their latest and there are some nice riffs here and there, but nothing that I find incredible. Population Reduction, now those are some sweet riffs.

ehh..

And you respond thusly because...?

i dunno, let's forget about this and move on.

Curious. Alright then.

So does anyone here know any good blogs or websites dedicated to grindcore that are worth recommending? I don't know any except for Grind and Punishment.

Grindgore.net. One of the best sites dedicated to grindcore that I know of.

Anybody lookin for some brutal deathcore that isnt just bree bree shitty breakdowns listen to I Declare War. There actually very good and have slight melodic parts in thier songs with some of the most truely brutal breakdowns you will hear, not the stupid boring ones that ruin a song.

Looks pretty sweet. Thanks man.

Recommend grindcore in the vein of Phobia's Cruel.

Thanks!

Does anyone know of,

A: A band which uses a similar vocal style to Barney from Napalm Death,

B: A band that sounds like a cross between Goremageddon: The Saw and the Carnage Done era Aborted and Anaal Nathrakh?

I'm the lead vocalist for my band and we are trying to decide on a style and i was thinking about the latter but am not sure if it would sound even remotely good, so i was interested in seeing if a band used that style (or something similar) to compare.

Also anyone who wants gritty chaotic grind should checkout Watchmaker.

not a blog or webpage, but i was looking through the Napalm Death band page on the Metal Archives earlier and within it this book was mentioned: "Choosing Death: The Improbable History Of Death Metal And Grindcore."

I've heard of that book before, though I've yet to hear anything that piques my interest.

I bought it, but i got quite bored of it pretty quickly, and haven't had the interest in going back to finish it off. The writing just didn't really manage to hold my attention, and i often found myself reading thru sentences and skipping forward to the next paragraph for something more interesting. I think you would enjoy it however, if you are a Napalm Death/Carcass/Morbid Angel fan, as the book (the first section at least) just seemed to revolve over and constantly around these bands.

I think I'll pass then. Not too interested in any of those bands.

I love short and sweat grindcore but I also really like longer Grindcore songs that somewhat progress. One band that comes to mind is Pig Destroyer, more so on the album Terrifyer. Tracks like Loathsome, Alexandria, The Machete Twins, Girl in The Slayer Jacket. Even the more recent Napalm Death has the same direction. Maybe even similar to Terrorizer?

Im not the biggest grindcore freak so I wouldnt know where to look but if anyone could give me some recomendations?, it would be very much apreciated.

Check out Brutal Truth (moreso after the debut, but their first album has hints of that as well) and Misery Index (earlier the better, they get more death and less grind on every subsequent release except for the very grindy Hang Em High EP)

I recommend checking out Fear Factory's first album Soul Of A New Machine, especially the track Flesh Hold. Burton's aggressive grunts and growls sound pretty damn similar to Barney if you ask me.

This band really doesn't fit a category, but if you get the chance, listen to Early Graves.

They consider themselves punk *shrugs shoulders* but thats bullshit. Give them a shot, the production on their first CD is crap, but the music is decent. Nice guys too, I got to talk to them at their Minnesota show last fall.
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Hmm...no Agathocles fans?

Everyone who reads this thread needs to check out some Spanish grindcore. Machetazo, Tu Carne etc. Those spaniards know how to grind.

I really dont understand how ANYONE could like Converge. I must be listening to the wrong converge. People are always saying its the only good metalcore, yet to me its the most atrocious noise to enter my ears. Are tey similar to darkest hour? which i find slightly more tolerable.

Anyway. Some people like breakdowns, even though imho they are anti-musical except when executed well and interstingly, by some bands.
I think the musicians in Despised Icon have talent, but after listening to songs other than In the Arms of Perdidition, I realized they really love to implement annoying breakdowns into their songs. So moving on I found Through the Eyes of the Dead, while though a bit repetitive, sound like they found the right mix between death metal and metalcore/hardcore. I also like all shall perish, they dont breakdown too much and when they do, its usually tolerable if not interesting. And I like their sort of experimental/prog chaotic direction with their music, whatever that means.

Converge's vocals are atrocious.

No, it doesn't sound like Darkest Hour.

Maybe you'd like Prayer for Cleansing. To be honest with you, I am not sure how well they hold up because I haven't heard them in a long time. The album is on M-A, though.

I like what I heard but its a band I really want to listen but am put off by the sheer amount of releases. reviews also state they like to change musically often.



Preaching to the choir, buddy. Bands like Machetazo, Looking For An Answer and Nashgul are quality bands with true grindcore spirit.

I really wouldn't say they 'change musically often', Agathocles always have sounded like Agathocles. Their formula hasn't changed all too much over the years, despite the rotating band members and insane amount of releases. Its just always been short grindcore with tones of crust/punk/metal/powerviolence. The production on the recordings changes greatly and some albums are more blast-laden and others more groove-laden, thats about it tho. While their not a definitive "You've heard one song, you've heard them all" band like Mortician can tend to be, their not far off.

If you are interested in checking them out more, if you havent already, check out the songs on these fansites:

http://www.myspace.com/agathocles12
www.myspace.com/xagathoclesx

If you want an album reccomendation out of the heap of releases, i would suggest trying to find one of these albums to start off with. They are all straightup Agathocles "mincecore".

Mincer
Superiority Overdose
Thanks for Your Hostility
Bomb Brussels (EP)
Razor Sharp Daggers

Best Deathcore band hands down, Misericordiam, check out their Unanimity And The Cessation Of Hostility ep if you don't believe me, they are quite possibly the most brutal band on the planet (on this ep)

Converge is a good band overall, the vocals are nothing special indeed but they are tolerable I think, anyway I think Botch & Coalesce are much better bands.