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DarkSkiesGreyWaters
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 10:46 am 
 
In an interview with Silenoz he claims the band have been working on new material since the pandemic.

https://metalinjection.net/news/silenoz ... us-a-while

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"We are working on new stuff," said Silenoz as transcribed by Metal Injection. "We have been working on and off [on the] new stuff for quite a while. During the pandemic there was some downtime where we worked on stuff on our own, like individually, and then we meet and [are] trying to concoct a new brew, so to speak. It's been… I think the fans are like, 'ah you have to get out a new album' and blah blah blah, but the thing is that we'd rather take our time and even take one year extra to make it better than good, if you know what I mean. So obviously we would also like to have an album out as soon as we can, but we're not going to do that."

He later added: "We hope to be active and hope to have more new music out to share with the fans – new fans of course, that's also our aim – but yeah, it takes us a while. I think it's safe to say that the longer people have to wait, the better the result is going to be."


No real intel on when it'll be completed. Can't say I've listened to Dimmu Borgir much in years. They were a formative band for me when I was getting into metal, but the Abrahadabra & Eonian records did nothing for me.
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CreepingDeath16
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 12:08 pm 
 
I'll be surprised if they release anything new sooner than 2026. They have gotten really slow with age and the time they take to make new music doesn't even reflect in the end product's quality in my ears. Abrahabadra had a few moments but Eonian had pretty much only the beginning of Alpha Aeon Omega. Not the mention how much worse Shagrath's voice has gotten over the years.

They would probably be a huge band if they moved faster. I feel they have gotten smaller than what they were circa In Sorte Diaboli.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 12:36 pm 
 
Firing one of the best parts of the band (the bassist/clean vocalist) didn't help either since Vortex's vocals were actually really good when they used them.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 1:58 pm 
 
Most of the people who made the band something special are either gone (ICS Vortex, Nick Barker, Mustis) or were reduced to a nominal level of contribution (Galder). Once Shagrath and Silenoz forced out everyone who could challenge them, the band turned into a theme park version of itself. Eonian was ass and I don't see this not being a complimentary pilonidal cyst.
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cweed
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 2:08 pm 
 
They probably just ran out of ideas so hard to find motivation to write? That's my guess, anyway.
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LycanthropeMoon
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 2:15 pm 
 
They've been saying this for years and we have yet to see the fruits of their labor.

Also, much like you, the last couple albums haven't done much for me. I like everything else, though... and I'll give whatever new material they put out a chance.
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jose_G
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 2:55 pm 
 
mmmm since in sorte diaboli i lost the interest
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MorbidEngel
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 2:58 pm 
 
Honestly, IMO, their peaks were Stormblast, EDT, PME and DCA, though I'm in the minority here for the last two. ISD was already a step down from the previous two.
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goetia_unreleased
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 4:26 pm 
 
MorbidEngel wrote:
Honestly, IMO, their peaks were Stormblast, EDT, PME and DCA, though I'm in the minority here for the last two. ISD was already a step down from the previous two.

Haha. Yeah I stopped paying attention to them right around the DCA-era. Of course that was over 20 years ago at this point wow. They were a gateway band for me and while I still enjoy DCA and down, it just doesn't hit me the same.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 5:29 pm 
 
I don't mean to be "that guy", but didn't these guys stop being sorta relevant over two decades ago? Could someone who enjoys their post Death Cult Armageddon material tell me what they enjoy about it? I'm just about 90% genuinely curious, and only 10% cynical.
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SanPeron
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 5:37 pm 
 
I lost track of them after In Sorte Diaboli, but they were huge in the mid-2000s along with Cradle of Filth and Children of Bodom, one of the first extreme bands that I got exposed to. They were good, but kind of corny, like most black metal.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 5:47 pm 
 
Can’t wait for them to take four more years on an album that’ll end up just being *fine*.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 6:03 pm 
 
Yeah, I'll be surprised if they get anything released until late next year, Eonian has just barely turned 6 and Abrahadabra was 8 when the former saw the light of day. Their stuff has been passable since Death Cult Armageddon, but nothing since Spiritual Black Dimensions has really grabbed me and beaten me into submission. Cradle Of Filth has been running rings around them since 2008 and I'd honestly have greater anticipation if Odium finally hatches a 27 years in the making successor to The Sad Realm Of The Stars.
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Slater922
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 6:31 pm 
 
I'd check it out, but besides a few tracks, everything after Death Cult Armageddon doesn't really interest me.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 7:52 pm 
 
The best thing about Dimmu Borgir was Fimbulwinter.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 8:33 pm 
 
What the people really want at this point is for Galder to finally get that new OMC done. It's only been fifteen goddamn years. It's not like he writes anything for Dimmu at this point, and he just needs to send someone like Gabe Seeber, Jack Blackburn, or Ragnar Sverrisson a message and he's got himself a world-class drummer for the session.
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BleedingMoon
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 10:48 pm 
 
Based on how middle of the road Aeonian was, with the only exception being Alpha Aeon Omega, they're probably busy coming up with an AI to just shit out slightly heavier Nightwish songs for Shagrath to croak over rather than writing any actual, memorial riffs.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2024 11:39 pm 
 
HeavenDuff wrote:
I don't mean to be "that guy", but didn't these guys stop being sorta relevant over two decades ago? Could someone who enjoys their post Death Cult Armageddon material tell me what they enjoy about it? I'm just about 90% genuinely curious, and only 10% cynical.


I actually thought we were all, collectively, "that guy".
I mean... does anyone genuinely still care about this band? And if so... why? There is TONS of incredible black metal constantly being released, of all shapes and sizes, there's a band to cater to all of your heart's desires if only you dig a bit.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2024 12:56 am 
 
Oh look, they finally realized how much deathcore bands were ripping off their whole aesthetic!

(this is a joke...maybe only half though lmao)
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MalignantTyrant
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2024 2:33 am 
 
Just retire already, jesus.

They've released a whole two albums in the last 15 or so years and they both fucking sucked.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2024 7:52 am 
 
Their studio work after Death Cult Armageddon was enjoyable, so will check it out when (if) it releases.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2024 10:52 am 
 
Frank Booth wrote:
Most of the people who made the band something special are either gone (ICS Vortex, Nick Barker, Mustis) or were reduced to a nominal level of contribution (Galder). Once Shagrath and Silenoz forced out everyone who could challenge them, the band turned into a theme park version of itself. Eonian was ass and I don't see this not being a complimentary pilonidal cyst.

Maybe ICS Vortex and Mustis will come back some day since the beef appears to be squashed. I think that's very very unlikely still, but one can dream!
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2024 12:36 pm 
 
lennonlikesmetal wrote:
The best thing about Dimmu Borgir was Fimbulwinter.

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2024 2:48 pm 
 
Eh, that album's fine but it's too all over the place. Fimbulwinter feels like a different beast, much more straightforward and none of the symphonics.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2024 3:48 pm 
 
It's funny how these guys were basically direct competitors, so to speak, with Cradle of Filth years ago

because now it's plainly apparent which band is the superior one. CoF has released some legit bangers over the last 15 or so years, DB...well...hasn't

I honestly don't want to hear another piece of music from them again, I'd be perfectly happy.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2024 4:01 pm 
 
Dimmu is receiving too much hate in this thread, Iam just glad we had some bands like them and Cradle of Filth that were popular worldwide and played extreme metal, when was the last time that ever happened? Maybe Iam being nostalgic, but I prefer bands like Dimmu Borgir that created their own signature style rather than the millions of generic copycat black metal bands that we have today, where is hard to differentiate one from another.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 1:31 am 
 
I'm a little nostalgic about the general idea of a band as dumb and OTT as Dimmu being popular, as opposed to the clever artsy stuff that started trending in BM later on. But when I turn on my critical faculties, nothing after Stormblast (the original, not the remake) holds up. From folky Norwegian melancholy and dreamy distant sonics to antiseptic chugga chugga and bad triggers.
Still find the band oddly endearing since I "grew up" with them, but I won't be checking this out probably


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 7:10 am 
 
It's so weird to me how Dimmu just kinda fizzled out at the absolute top of their career.
I liked In Sorte Diaboli well enough, but I could also tell that it'd be the last album from them I'd bother listening to. With all the key personnel being out, I'm not really interested in whatever they've got to offer these days.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 7:11 am 
 
MalignantTyrant wrote:
It's funny how these guys were basically direct competitors, so to speak, with Cradle of Filth years ago

because now it's plainly apparent which band is the superior one. CoF has released some legit bangers over the last 15 or so years, DB...well...hasn't

I honestly don't want to hear another piece of music from them again, I'd be perfectly happy.


It's funny because both were gateway bands for me into metal. I remember Cradle were absolutely hated in many Metal communities, seen as the ultimate posers. Dimmu were treated similarly. On reflection, Cradle had a bit of a lapse, I suppose, in the 2000s (although I have a nostalgic soft-spot for Nymphetamine as it was one of my earliest extreme metal listens) but they've always been a good band. Their 90s material rocks, and the stuff they've been doing since Hammer of the Witches is really cool too. They've rejuvenated, really.

Dimmu... I haven't listened to any of their old records in a long while. I really liked Enthrone Darkness Triumphant through to Death Cult and In Sorte was fine. Afterwards... they fell off hard. It's like where Cradle learned how to fly again, they floundered along and off a cliff...
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 10:43 am 
 
SanPeron wrote:
Maybe Iam being nostalgic, but I prefer bands like Dimmu Borgir that created their own signature style rather than the millions of generic copycat black metal bands that we have today, where is hard to differentiate one from another.

Signature style? Are you just now discovering symphonic black metal?
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 11:12 am 
 
Wilytank wrote:
SanPeron wrote:
Maybe Iam being nostalgic, but I prefer bands like Dimmu Borgir that created their own signature style rather than the millions of generic copycat black metal bands that we have today, where is hard to differentiate one from another.

Signature style? Are you just now discovering symphonic black metal?


Are you just now discovering that bands can play a genre and have a personal style in that genre? Is it that hard for you to understand Willy?
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 11:16 am 
 
Not a huge fan, but I really liked In Sorte Diaboli.
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SanPeron wrote:
Wilytank wrote:
SanPeron wrote:
Maybe Iam being nostalgic, but I prefer bands like Dimmu Borgir that created their own signature style rather than the millions of generic copycat black metal bands that we have today, where is hard to differentiate one from another.

Signature style? Are you just now discovering symphonic black metal?


Are you just now discovering that bands can play a genre and have a personal style in that genre? Is it that hard for you to understand Willy?

If you really think mediocrity is a personal style then sure, I understand.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 4:23 pm 
 
I enjoy some Dimmu here and there but boy if they weren’t the poster child for mediocre symphonic black metal I don’t know what is. They weren’t pioneers, they were just palatable to the mainstream back in the 90s. I used to actively disown them in the 90s/00’s because they were considered Mickey Mouse posers… obviously I’ve chilled out from my teens/twenties but yeah considering them pioneers of that time is quite the revisionist history.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 4:58 pm 
 
OSB2018 wrote:
Not a huge fan, but I really liked In Sorte Diaboli.


I spun that today and it was a decent enough listen. Slick black metal isn't a bad thing.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 3:01 pm 
 
Firstly, no band stays as good as they were 30 years into their career, but in Dimmu Borgir's case I really think it's about a lack of vision. If you look at them with a critical eye, they have always had parts of their presentation that were not up to snuff. Even at their best, they didn't write genius music, and despite their obvious commercial success, none of their albums are truly considered black metal classics like the best Burzum, Darkthrone, Emperor and Mayhem albums are. That's not to say they haven't written some entertaining music, because they have, but they've never written a true masterpiece.
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